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Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Are you saying that 1 loss GB had to the Giants last Jan didn't ruin their season?
That was the regular season? Lulz.
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1 loss ruins ends your season in the NFL chief, its just the timing.
Which is exactly what we're talking about.
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college will never approach the NFL
Sure won't.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:43 pm to Big L
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BCS was established because bowl alliances meant that the top 2 teams in the nation rarely played each other, so they created a BCS bowl to get those teams to play....but last year those teams HAD played each other, and it went full circle retard and killed itself. that's the one silver lining out of last year's game....it killed the BCS.
Actually a really good point I hadn't thought of before. I've been generally ok with the BCS, but you're right, last year it ended up worse than the old system.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:43 pm to Big L
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Come on man...nobody in the top 10 has more than 2 losses
yeah that's true, i said 8 wouldn't be bad, but most of the teams around 6-8 are teams that lost to teams in front of them. Take Arkansas last year. They were 10-2, but got housed by LSU and Bana, they have no claim on being the the best team. I'd rather the champion be the one of the best teams, The more teams you have in a playoff the more likely you are to get an "accidental champion.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:44 pm to Big L
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....but last year those teams HAD played each other, and it went full circle retard and killed itself. that's the one silver lining out of last year's game..
Yea, and with a playoff, rematches are MORE likely to happen! Yay for rematches!
The BCS should have been tweaked, not killed.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:45 pm to Big L
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if you want every game to be critical then you must be beside yourself with anger at the inter-divisional SEC scheduling
i am
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:47 pm to UltimateHog
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loss ruins ends your season in the NFL chief, its just the timing.
Which is exactly what we're talking about.
right, and its stupid to say 1 loss late should end it, but multiple losses in the regular season shouldn't.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:49 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Yea, and with a playoff, rematches are MORE likely to happen! Yay for rematches!
The BCS should have been tweaked, not killed.
But wait....in the current system, every single game matters, so a rematch in the current system is WAYYYYYYYYY more of an injustice than a system with playoffs. The NFL deals with it all the time and nobody complains. everybody understands that the regular season is just there to get you to the post season and to seed you in the post season. why wouldn't people's mindset change for CFB also?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:50 pm to WITNESS23
and as you add teams it becomes harder and harder to pick who should go and who shouldn't. If we went to 8 we'd have ND, Bama, K-State (assuming they hold on), Oregon and Florida as locks. For the last 3 spots you'd have:
LSU
Stanford
USCe
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Florida State (assuming they hold on)
Clemson
How do you pick which 3 go and which 4 don't? Cases can be made for all of them.
LSU
Stanford
USCe
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Florida State (assuming they hold on)
Clemson
How do you pick which 3 go and which 4 don't? Cases can be made for all of them.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i am
me too
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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and as you add teams it becomes harder and harder to pick who should go and who shouldn't. If we went to 8 we'd have ND, Bama, K-State (assuming they hold on), Oregon and Florida as locks. For the last 3 spots you'd have:
LSU
Stanford
USCe
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Florida State (assuming they hold on)
Clemson
How do you pick which 3 go and which 4 don't? Cases can be made for all of them.
Leaving a ninth team out of a playoff is WAAAAAYYYY less of an injustice than leaving the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:52 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Ask Auburn in 2004 or Cincy in 2009 how much their regular season meant
It meant plnety, it's tragic that people think only winning the MNC matters. Using that logic, not one's seasons but the team that ultimately wins matters.
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Last year the "Game of the Century" meant nothing.
This is true, under the BCS there should not have been a rematch.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:54 pm to Ford Frenzy
quote:Yep. There's always been a debate on who is #1 and #2. And the BCS always puts them in a bowl. I must admit it was fun to flip between the Rose and Fiesta on New Year's afternooon, then flip between the Sugar and Orange that night. It was like two weeks ago when you were pulling against (or for) K-State and Oregon to lose. And while that was fun -- it was so frustrating when two teams would finish unbeaten and some jack arse writers got to vote on who was the Champion. Case in point 1994, #1 Nebraska and #2 Penn State finish undefeated, with BCS they could have played each other and settled in on the field, not in an election. But if that was the case, I only would have cared about that game and none of the others. All I wanted from the old system was to let #1 play #2 after all the bowls if both teams were undefeated.
The BCS has been a success, if you disagree you are too young to remember what it was like before
Oh and let's not forget the 1990 Colorado team - they finish 11-1-1 (two losses really because they got 5 downs against Missouri) and the AP still voted them #1 over an undefeated Georgia Tech team. How retarded is that ?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:54 pm to Big L
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Leaving a ninth team out of a playoff is WAAAAAYYYY less of an injustice than leaving the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th.
So what happens if you go to 8? Those teams at 9, 10 and 11 bitch and bitch and eventually they add more spots, which just adds more teams that feel like they got jobbed. It will never end. I'm all for going to 4 teams. What happened to Auburn in 2004 should never happen again. But after that I think it's a bad idea. Name the last time the #5 team had a legit claim to play for the NC.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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nd as you add teams it becomes harder and harder to pick who should go and who shouldn't
no it doesn't all those teams have flaws.
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How do you pick which 3 go and which 4 don't? Cases can be made for all of them
simple 2 on your list won CCG so those 2 are in. I would probably take LSU next based on SOS, plus they beat USCe and A&M head to head. But all those teams have 2 loses and have no room to bitch. Leaving those teams out is a lot better than leaving out 2004 Auburn or 2003 USC. There's always a next team, the more loses that team has, the less griping they can do.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:58 pm to HMTVBrian2
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Well, the BCS was definitely better than the previous alternative
Definitely.. the nation thought the best way to decide who the champ was to leave it to the AP and various other media outlets...
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:58 pm to Lou
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The BCS has been a success, if you disagree you are too young to remember what it was like before
I'll admit it's been an improvement, but it's clearly loaded with faults if the single objective is to determine a national champion.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
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no it doesn't all those teams have flaws.
exactly which makes it easy to argue against any of them.
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simple 2 on your list won CCG so those 2 are in
Why does winning a CCG matter?
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But all those teams have 2 loses and have no room to bitch.
But they will bitch, because a team they think they are better than got in and they didn't.
Also you're leaving out another big factor, as playoff appearances become the barometer for a successful season, coaches will lobby to expand the field as they have in basketball.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:00 pm to Big L
quote:Alabama's regular season game against LSU last year didn't matter.
in the current system, every single game matters
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:01 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Yeah, and it's utter crap. BCS is the way it should be at least in terms of having every game count.
MLB, NFL, it's about who is the best at the end of the year.
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