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re: what's your no. 1 suggestion for fixing NIL?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:31 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:31 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Meanwhile, pro sports are left mostly unchecked and free from antitrust restrictions.
Because pro sports have collective bargaining agreements. Both sides are at the table figuring things out. That doesn't exist in college athletics.
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:32 am to WM88
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It would lead to what it was before NIL (aka bagmen paying more under the table).
exactly...
why does no one understand that players have been bought and paid for, forever... NIL just put it on top of the table... not that you can, b/c NIL is not a salary, but even if you did implement a "salary cap", money would just shift back under the table...
at this point, the toothpaste is out of the tube... the only thing that will stem NIL in the future is having boosters get burned by spending large amounts of dollars and it doesn't transition to success by the "star" players
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:43 am to Borntoboogy
Absolutely there should be a salary cap. Players should get paid but let’s not get crazy. It’s still college athletics
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:55 am to Boodis Man
No NIL for freshmen. Players have to prove themselves at the college level. Imagine being a 2 or 3 year starter and seeing an incoming freshman who hasn’t taken a single snap get more NIL money than the entire O-line.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:59 am to Boodis Man
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Boodis Man
I like how 4 pages in, despite many, many people pointing out there are no salaries, an idiot of this caliber still uses the term salary cap.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:00 am to stephendomalley
cap with an increase per year providing you stay.
if you enter the portal..........then you lose NIL allowance and can only be thankful for the scholarship that will be offered.
if you enter the portal..........then you lose NIL allowance and can only be thankful for the scholarship that will be offered.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:05 am to GhostofJackson
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I like how 4 pages in, despite many, many people pointing out there are no salaries, an idiot of this caliber still uses the term salary cap.
I don’t know why they think they can limit someone’s earnings without collective bargaining either. It’s some of the dumbest shite I’ve ever heard.
I don’t want to limit kids earnings or movement, for decades coaches were selling kids and their families a bullshite bill of goods to get them on campus because once there they’re essentially stuck. Has the transfer thing gotten out of control? Absolutely. But as I’ve already stated, if you put some fiscal since into the offers they’re getting, a hell of a lot of that figures itself out.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:57 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Let it be a free for all. No more recruiting, no more national signing day, no more scholarships, end this commitment/decommit shite. Players go where they want and have benefactors pay for school with NIL money. Once they register for school they must stay until the season is over.
Get a GM like Luck is with Stanford to coordinate it. It is a pro league, run it like a pro league. NIL donators are the owners, GM, coaching staff.
Follow CBB rules, turn pro after 1 year of school.
It is all going to come crashing down at some point.
Get a GM like Luck is with Stanford to coordinate it. It is a pro league, run it like a pro league. NIL donators are the owners, GM, coaching staff.
Follow CBB rules, turn pro after 1 year of school.
It is all going to come crashing down at some point.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:18 am to stephendomalley
I think NIL will sort itself out.
Disadvantaged teams will start to offer heavily incentive-based deals with pay increases for staying with the school year after year etc. Little money up front; but a whole helluva lot of potential earnings on the back end. The teams throwing around stupid amounts of money up front will eventually realize that most of the recruits aren’t worth what they’re paying them and they’ll switch to incentive-based too.
To fix the transfer issue, I’d cap the number of transfers each school can take per year. Players can transfer as much as they want; the restrictions should be placed on the schools.
Disadvantaged teams will start to offer heavily incentive-based deals with pay increases for staying with the school year after year etc. Little money up front; but a whole helluva lot of potential earnings on the back end. The teams throwing around stupid amounts of money up front will eventually realize that most of the recruits aren’t worth what they’re paying them and they’ll switch to incentive-based too.
To fix the transfer issue, I’d cap the number of transfers each school can take per year. Players can transfer as much as they want; the restrictions should be placed on the schools.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:26 am to TheDude854
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To fix the transfer issue, I’d cap the number of transfers each school can take per year. Players can transfer as much as they want; the restrictions should be placed on the schools.
This is the most realistic way to limit transfers I’ve heard yet. I could get behind this.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:27 am to tigerdup07
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cap with an increase per year providing you stay.
all a cap would do is bring back the under the table payments
NIL isn't the issue. It is the players ability to transfer without punishment
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:48 am to GhostofJackson
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I like how 4 pages in, despite many, many people pointing out there are no salaries, an idiot of this caliber still uses the term salary cap
I've been trying to nicely explain it for 5 pages now. But anybody who just spouts off nonsense without having a clue what they are talking about probably isn't going to bother reading any of the thread.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:01 am to West Seattle Dude
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No NIL for freshmen
Who is going to agree to that?
The NCAA can't make this rule and have any chance of enforcing it.
The schools can all agree to do it, but we all know that will not happen whether they agree to it or not. It won't technically be a rule, and some schools will do whatever to get an edge.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:02 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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This is the most realistic way to limit transfers I’ve heard yet. I could get behind this
Yeah, but then how do you combat having 30 players transfer out, with only being able to take 5 in, for example? There could be issues with that as well.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:05 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Yeah, but then how do you combat having 30 players transfer out, with only being able to take 5 in, for example? There could be issues with that as well.
There is a finite number of transfer spots available so most of the math would work itself out, especially for high level players. Josh Downs or Isiah Bond aren’t going to Kent State. It’s not perfect, but it mostly works
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:08 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Yeah I suppose you are correct. I don't see that being the route taken though. It's certainly among the better suggestions. At least it is somewhat realistic.
They just have to find some middle ground somehow. That can't begin to happen until the players are represented, which I think will happen as soon a rev share becomes real.
They just have to find some middle ground somehow. That can't begin to happen until the players are represented, which I think will happen as soon a rev share becomes real.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:11 am to GhostofJackson
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I like how 4 pages in, despite many, many people pointing out there are no salaries, an idiot of this caliber still uses the term salary cap.
the point is players are getting paid so there needs to be a cap to make it work. i don't buy the notion that something like a CBA can't be setup by the conferences
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:13 am to Boodis Man
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the point is players are getting paid so there needs to be a cap to make it work
Based on what?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:16 am to Boodis Man
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the point is players are getting paid so there needs to be a cap to make it work. i don't buy the notion that something like a CBA can't be setup by the conferences
Ok so answer me this.
The NBA, NFL, MLB all have CBA's right? I think we all can agree that this exist in some form.
Do you think part of those salary cap debates in this league prohibit a player from signing a shoe deal for however much a shoe company is willing to pay them?
You probably won't answer this, so I'll tell you the answer. It is NO. But that's what you are suggesting they do.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 12:53 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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No NIL for freshmen
Who is going to agree to that?
The NCAA can't make this rule and have any chance of enforcing it.
The schools can all agree to do it,
That’s collusion and they’d be even more fricked
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