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re: What's up with the Memphis Grizzlies?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:28 pm to Domino Carver
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:28 pm to Domino Carver
They have no offensive firepower at all
They look old
They look old
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 12:31 pm
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:30 pm to REG861
Chris Wallace may be the worst GM in the whole league.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:32 pm to BoardReader
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Who is the developmental prospect on the Grizzlies?
Jordan Adams, Jamychal Green, and Russ Smith. Green especially who had a double double the other night against the Kings.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:33 pm to REG861
Since this is a Grizz fan can someone explain Tony Allen calling for the Clips twitter person to be fired for tweeting #didntloseby50 after the GS loss? What a bitch move calling for someone making 40K to be fired over a little trash talk.
Oh and randolph on the same issue:
I take it with a grain of salt,” he told Ronald Tillery of The Commercial Appeal. “I ain’t with all that talking and Instagraming and tweeting and bluffing. You got to prove it on the court.”
you lost 2 games in the last 3 by a combined 80 points and you're talking about proving it on the court. Typical.
Oh and randolph on the same issue:
I take it with a grain of salt,” he told Ronald Tillery of The Commercial Appeal. “I ain’t with all that talking and Instagraming and tweeting and bluffing. You got to prove it on the court.”
you lost 2 games in the last 3 by a combined 80 points and you're talking about proving it on the court. Typical.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:39 pm to RTR America
quote:Your reasons were: They aren't doing things they usually do, and Gasol isn't in shape.
I gave you some. You ignored them to post some bull shite that really had nothing to with why those teams are struggling.
Those are the most vague answers I've ever heard.
quote:Sometimes it's not an issue, but sometimes it is. And I'm not saying that is for sure the reason the Thunder aren't doing great... I'm saying there are at least things like this to look at that could possibly explain the struggles, unlike the Grizzlies who didn't make any major changes to the team.
100's of cases of this never being an issue
quote:Harden did suck, but it goes beyond just him sucking. There are reasons that led to him sucking, other than just not shooting well. Changes in the offense also plays a part. He's playing more off the ball. There is a learning curve there that he's going through. And the defense has struggled with the addition of Lawson, injured PF's (they have played SF's at the 4 and got badly out-rebounded or played Harrell, who can't shoot, at the 4 and killed the spacing), and Dwight Howard has missed 2 games already. So there are certainly things to look to that can explain the struggles.
No Harden sucked arse in their first few games, so the Rockets sucked arse.
Just like Gasol has sucked and the Grizz have sucked at times this season.
And you seem upset. I'm not trying to troll or even bring other teams into the mix. I'm just confused at the Grizzlies struggles. I mean, it's one thing to just lose... it's another to get blown out by 19, 30, and 50 points in 6 games.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:43 pm to Domino Carver
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So it's just effort?
Or rather a severe lack of it.
They simply aren't playing. As to why? I have no idea. But they aren't playing. Something's going on.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:47 pm to Domino Carver
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But they really aren't old, are they? Of the starters, isn't the only "old" player Zach Randolph?
Marc Gasol is 31
Zach Randolph is 34
Tony Allen is 33
Courtney Lee is 30
Mike Conley is 28
Matt Bares is 35
Jeff Green is 29
Beno Udrich is 33
Memphis only has 5 players on the entire roster younger than 28. They're one of the older teams in the league now
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:49 pm to SSpaniel
quote:If it's just lack of effort, that's strange. Grizzlies are known for being a scrappy team that plays with effort. And they've been doing it for years.
Or rather a severe lack of it.
They simply aren't playing. As to why? I have no idea. But they aren't playing. Something's going on.
I mean, a lack of effort from the Grizz might result in losses... but like you said there must be something going on because the got beat bad in half of their games. And that's just not like them.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:05 pm to Domino Carver
Pelicans fans would gladly take their record right now.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:08 pm to RTR America
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Jordan Adams, Jamychal Green, and Russ Smith. Green especially who had a double double the other night against the Kings.
If these are your developmental prospects for core players, there should be zero confusion as to why your team is struggling.
Its exactly illustrative of the Memphis problem.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:34 pm to BoardReader
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If these are your developmental prospects for core players, there should be zero confusion as to why your team is struggling. Its exactly illustrative of the Memphis problem.
Where we have been in the draft that is pretty good return. Green is already a rotation player in his 2nd year.
Jordan Adams is coming off of offseason surgery, but he is by far the guy they are most excited about. Great shooter with a sort of James Harden-esque game.
Russ Smith looked awesome during the Summer and Preseason. Seems to really be learning how to play the position.
They have been drafting in the mid-twenties. You do realize how difficult it is to hit on a guy that late?
Hard to say anything about Jarrell Martin because we haven't seen him play at all.
You could throw in Jarnell Stokes in there, but I think he has really fallen behind since they signed Green.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:38 pm to RTR America
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Where we have been in the draft that is pretty good return.
Green is already a rotation player in his 2nd year.
They're NBA accessories, not core players; when the rest of the conference is good, and getting better, drafting well enough to not regress too much just isn't going to cut it.
Their window closed after the playoff defeat 2 years ago; the problem is that they still don't seem to grasp it.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:39 pm to Domino Carver
They just look old. The core of that team is Losing their edge.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:43 pm to UncleBlazer
The (re)emergence of Lillard has been awesome! He was in a bad bad alump last season and in the postseason he didn't belong on the court anymore. That was a different Blazer team. I think Lillard really like a this leader role. He's the guy everyoneis rallying around. I like the team makeup and the Aminu's signingmight be the biggest steal of the offseason. Everyone mocked oh offseason. To be honest it was coming. We did a fantastic job.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:46 pm to Domino Carver
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Your reasons were: They aren't doing things they usually do, and Gasol isn't in shape. Those are the most vague answers I've ever heard.
Nothing vague about that. The Grizzlies play one of the most unique ways in the NBA. There is a reason their Net rating is always going against what the numbers would suggest. They "Grind" games out. They play a shite ton of close basketball games and rarely ever blow anyone out.
They have to dominate the other team in paint points, slow down the pace, limit turnovers, play great defense, get easy baskets off of turnovers, and just try to beat up other teams.
They just aren't doing a lot of those things well right now hence being unable to make up for their lack of firepower offensively.
Gasol has looked a step slow. He has had stretches where he takes over a game, but he hasn't really been able to sustain. His defense is nowhere near where it should be.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:48 pm to BoardReader
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They're NBA accessories, not core players; when the rest of the conference is good, and getting better, drafting well enough to not regress too much just isn't going to cut it.
You don't know that. They are all in their second seasons.
The Grizzlies have max cap space this upcoming offseason.
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Their window closed after the playoff defeat 2 years ago
Yes that is why they gave the Warriors their biggest challenge all postseason despite the injuriesPosted on 11/6/15 at 1:48 pm to RTR America
quote:Now that's an actual explanation.
Nothing vague about that. The Grizzlies play one of the most unique ways in the NBA. There is a reason their Net rating is always going against what the numbers would suggest. They "Grind" games out. They play a shite ton of close basketball games and rarely ever blow anyone out.
They have to dominate the other team in paint points, slow down the pace, limit turnovers, play great defense, get easy baskets off of turnovers, and just try to beat up other teams.
They just aren't doing a lot of those things well right now hence being unable to make up for their lack of firepower offensively.
Gasol has looked a step slow. He has had stretches where he takes over a game, but he hasn't really been able to sustain. His defense is nowhere near where it should be.
What you said before was very vague. That's why you had to go into detail like you just did.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:50 pm to Domino Carver
They are old
Exhibit A:
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:52 pm to RTR America
Pels fans will tell you that it was all down hill after getting rid of Q-Pon.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:52 pm to Domino Carver
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but like you said there must be something going on because the got beat bad in half of their games. And that's just not like them.
well when you know your ceiling and things look futile, it's hard to keep up the effort like when you were up and coming...
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