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re: What's the Future of the G5 Conferences?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:21 pm to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:21 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:I don’t know for certain, but I’m assuming they were grandfathered in since they always were in 1-A/FBS.
Kent St - 25,300 seats
Bowling Greene - 24,000 seats
Ohio U - 27,000
Miami U - 24,000
I mean half the MAC wouldn’t be FBS by that standard?
I do know that ULM expanded Malone Stadium from ~23k to exactly 30k to fulfill the requirements in 1994.
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:23 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
belt. I would be all for the G5 merging with the top 5 FCS conferences and becoming the G10. It would be legit playoff for those schools.
I think they’d lose their TV contract and would gain less of that happened
The MAC is happy where it is not making that coin
With the occasional NY6 bowl which pays them probably far more than winning a national title in the FCS
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:26 pm to xiv
quote:
So two teams will end their seasons with three neutral site games.
When will the quarterfinals be played? Do quarterfinal losers get to play in bowl games?
This will further diminish the Rose Bowl game, which would now stand to pit two third place teams against each other. I can’t imagine that its two conferences will go along with this. If those two hold out, then it’s a no-go.
Doesn’t seem like a realistic idea.
That is what people originally said about the BCS and the CFP. There is already talk of expanding the playoffs and there is a lot of money to be made by adding another round. At the end of the day $$$ always wins.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:27 pm to WeeWee
Tulane back to the SEC to give Vandy an equal.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:27 pm to I Bleed Garnet
^^^^
That just blows my mind if that’s the case. What’s the point of playing if you literally have nothing to play for. I dunno, I think an upgraded G5 to G10 would draw amazing interest from sponsors. They can still play P5 teams (and get paid) but at the end of the year, they have a championship to play for. I just don’t see how both can’t exist?
That just blows my mind if that’s the case. What’s the point of playing if you literally have nothing to play for. I dunno, I think an upgraded G5 to G10 would draw amazing interest from sponsors. They can still play P5 teams (and get paid) but at the end of the year, they have a championship to play for. I just don’t see how both can’t exist?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:32 pm to WeeWee
quote:No it isn’t.
That is what people originally said about the BCS and the CFP.
The Rose Bowl can’t put two third place teams against each other currently, unless all four playoff teams come from their tie-ins and the Rose Bowl isn’t a playoff semifinal.
The dates and sites of the quarterfinal games involve much more complicated questions. The current CFP model gives us only a plus-1 in terms of scheduling. All the major bowls are, more or less, played on or near their normal dates.
Expanding to eight gives us four more games. When are they played? Second week of December at home sites? New Year’s Day weekend at bowls?
Expanding to four wasn’t nearly as hard as expanding to 8 will be. What do you think happens? When and where are these four extra games played?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:38 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
That just blows my mind if that’s the case.
I did find this for 2017
There’s a reason they don’t want to move to FCS
FCS conferences that provide the full NCAA-allowable complement of scholarships receive $2.53 million as a collective pool, which includes the Big Sky, Big South, Colonial, Mid-Eastern, Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, Southern, Southland, and SWAC.
Group of 5
$81.32 million collective pool ($16.264m per conference)
And the AAC got an additional 4 million to divide among the conference due to UCF making the peach bowl
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:14 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Thanks for the info...I wonder if the MAC has ever considered approaching a school like North Dakota St or Army or Navy about joining? If the money is that significant, you can see why some of these teams from the FCS has made the jump. It would be Awesome if the MAC expanded by adding NDSU, Army, Navy and Youngstown St.
Army**
Navy**
Youngstown St**
Buffalo
Kent St
Akron
Ohio
Miami
North Dakota St**
Northern Illinois
Central Mich
Eastern Mich
Western Mich
Toledo
Bowling Green
Ball St
Would be a nice little conference IMO
Army**
Navy**
Youngstown St**
Buffalo
Kent St
Akron
Ohio
Miami
North Dakota St**
Northern Illinois
Central Mich
Eastern Mich
Western Mich
Toledo
Bowling Green
Ball St
Would be a nice little conference IMO
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:16 pm to xiv
The worst team in the Sun Belt just physically dominated Tennessee. I’ll say it again, the worst team.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:23 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
Thanks for the info...I wonder if the MAC has ever considered approaching a school like North Dakota St or Army or Navy about joining? If the money is that significant, you can see why some of these teams from the FCS has made the jump. It would be Awesome if the MAC expanded by adding NDSU, Army, Navy and Youngstown St.
I think for now Navy won’t because they make more money in the AAC
NDSU, because it’s been mentioned their stadium doesn’t meet capacity
Youngstown State i have no idea , probably something to do with being a pourer school as it is in a very pour area and not being able to afford the increase in scholarships and possible stadium renovations .
The MAC also already has a number of Ohio schools what’s the use of adding another for a state they are already in (for television sets)
Army is independent right now and I’m not really sure how service academies work with all the money and shite
Again in order to make the jump you have to be invited
The SunBelt was looking for teams and they also found teams in the geographic area looking to make the jump.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:24 pm to chew4219
Upon further reading, I came across where Buffalo just cut 4 varsity sports and is at the bare minimum to be eligible for FBS. If Buffalo cuts anymore sports, the MAC will be forced to remove them. I wonder how many G5 schools are going through the same scenario? The money must not be that good.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:26 pm to chew4219
quote:Obviously they aren’t the worst Sun Belt team. Besides, you can’t prove much of a point with a single game result. You have to cite a trend backed with a good sample size.
The worst team in the Sun Belt just physically dominated Tennessee. I’ll say it again, the worst team.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:30 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
Upon further reading, I came across where Buffalo just cut 4 varsity sports and is at the bare minimum to be eligible for FBS. If Buffalo cuts anymore sports, the MAC will be forced to remove them. I wonder how many G5 schools are going through the same scenario? The money must not be that good.
I think certain schools were struggling regardless
Buffalo would be struggling financially wherever they were
For example look at Hofstra, who was a pretty solid FCS at the time.
And they just completely cut their football program in 08
I personally think UConn should do that.
Football is expensive but if you have the resources is worth it
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:30 pm to xiv
I just can’t imagine the NCAA not making an exception for North Dakota St. They are a dominant program with a better fan base and following than 90% of the current G5. Would the NCAA seriously hold NDSU back because of this?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:33 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
I just can’t imagine the NCAA not making an exception for North Dakota St. They are a dominant program with a better fan base and following than 90% of the current G5. Would the NCAA seriously hold NDSU back because of this?
I feel they’d make an exception if someone asked them and they ponies up some cash
Don’t think either has happened
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:34 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:Because there would be a class action lawsuit on behalf of a ton of schools who are as qualified as NDSU and are excluded.
I just can’t imagine the NCAA not making an exception for North Dakota St. They are a dominant program with a better fan base and following than 90% of the current G5. Would the NCAA seriously hold NDSU back because of this?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:36 pm to xiv
^^^
Very true...didn’t think about it that way
Very true...didn’t think about it that way
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:49 pm to chew4219
quote:
I’ll say it again, the worst team.
BS They aren't the worst team this year.They've also beat Georgia Southern 3:outta the last four years.
So is Southern on of the best in the Sun Belt? If that's the case they certainly didn't represent the Sunbelt or G5 very well vs LSU.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 6:57 pm to Buckeye Backer
Army was already in CUSA for football and left to be independent again so I doubt they would want to be in the MAC.
They might want to be in the AAC for football only but other than that I see them remaining independent.
They might want to be in the AAC for football only but other than that I see them remaining independent.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:02 pm to xiv
They were picked by media and coaches to finish last in the SBC East. They aren’t very good.
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