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re: What will this years excuse be to put in an undeserving team into CFP?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:36 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:36 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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mean when it comes to 2 teams with basically identical resumes, nitpicking to this degree might become necessary to distinguish between and ultimately determine things
That’s a reasonable answer. Assuming all other data is a tie but to me usually 1 team will be better, even slightly
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
Because the winner is determined on the field, which should be metric 1 for determining playoff teams. If we want the season to matter, take teams that took care of business during the season.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:43 pm to AUCE05
quote:What?
Because the winner is determined on the field
Did Alabama not play of any fields last year?
What does take care of business even mean?
OSU got doubled up at home to a top team. That's a data point. It doesn't matter in the slightest that it wasn't a conference game. frick, you're saying that game doesn't even exist because it didn't factor into who won the Big 10. Jesus Christ what a horrible idea you have here.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:44 pm to ReauxlTide222
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You clearly keep stating that you think Southern Cal should be in over Alabama. God what a shitty playoff you'd come up with
I’m sorry I thought you meant South Carolina since you or some one (if I’m confusing posters I apologize) mentioned a hypothetical involving South Carolina beating UGA having a better claim to the playoffs per my criteria which is false. However given a hypothetical 2017 where South Carolina beat UGA and Auburn, then yes I would have Southern California in over Bama based on winning their conference (not simply division, but conference. This is why hypotheticals are stupid because we can always come up with some doomsday scenario but in reality it never happens. My playoff last year would have been : Clemson, OU, UGA and Ohio State. That’s teams 1,2,3 and 5. Hardly a miscarriage of justice.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:45 pm to ReauxlTide222
Did they win their division?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:46 pm to AUCE05
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Because the winner is determined on the field, which should be metric 1 for determining playoff teams. If we want the season to matter, take teams that took care of business during the season.
See my post above. Justify 10-2 Oklahoma getting in over 11-1 Ohio State even though OSU you went to Norman and won by 21
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:47 pm to AUCE05
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OSU got doubled up at home to a top team. That's a data point. It doesn't matter in the slightest that it wasn't a conference game. frick, you're saying that game doesn't even exist because it didn't factor into who won the Big 10. Jesus Christ what a horrible idea you have here.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Also, the second USCe won the East you absolutely believe that they should get in over Alabama. Stop lying.
No that’s just a scenario you made up, I’m not lying. But since you like hypotheticals what if Auburn beats UGA in the SECCG last year. Should Alabama go over Georgia? If you say yes, which I assume you would, then what you are doing is punishing UGA for actually winning their division, effectively giving Alabama a bye for losing. What kind of incentive for a shitty playoff is that?
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:49 pm to Glorious
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See my post above. Justify 10-2 Oklahoma getting in over 11-1 Ohio State even though OSU you went to Norman and won by 21
You mean in 2016? Penn State would go over OU
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:50 pm to AUCE05
Alabama lost 1 conference game. A loss on the road to Auburn.
OSU lost to Iowa by 1000.
But because of some random shite that neither team can control, one won their division and the other didn't.
Plus OSU last another game too.
This division shite is so stupid
OSU lost to Iowa by 1000.
But because of some random shite that neither team can control, one won their division and the other didn't.
Plus OSU last another game too.
This division shite is so stupid
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Correct.
But since you like hypotheticals what if Auburn beats UGA in the SECCG last year. Should Alabama go over Georgia? If you say yes, which I assume you would, then what you are doing is punishing UGA for actually winning their division
We need to do away with the conference championship games and every team needs to add a mandatory P5 opponent.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
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what if Auburn beats UGA in the SECCG last year. Should Alabama go over Georgia? If you say yes, which I assume you would then what you are punishing UGA for actually winning their division, effectively giving Alabama a bye for losing. What kind of shitty playoff is that?
2 things
A. Georgia was 6th when the SECCG happened. They needed a win to get in
B. This has been an issue for quite some time. Bama was punished in 2008 for playing an extra game and in 1992 were close to losing a nattie bid in the SECCG. A conference having a championship game is irreverently risky but with potential rewards
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You mean in 2016? Penn State would go over OU
But do you want a system where OU Can get in but Ohio State cannot?
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
Wisconsin should have gone OVER Bama and the Eye Test.
Lost one game in the Championship of their conference (something Bama didnt even qualify for). And by less than Bama did.
Bama cant keep making the playoff JUST because of Bama!!
Lost one game in the Championship of their conference (something Bama didnt even qualify for). And by less than Bama did.
Bama cant keep making the playoff JUST because of Bama!!
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:56 pm to ReauxlTide222
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OSU lost to Iowa by 1000.
Now who is lying
I’m pretty sure the record margin is 222-0 and 55-24 is 31 or 969 less than 1000. quote:
But because of some random shite that neither team can control, one won their division and the other didn't.
There’s nothing random about it and all teams do in fact control whether they win their division or not.
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Plus OSU last another game too.
So? They could easily play Tulsa instead and be 11-1.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:57 pm to dirtbag lsu
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:58 pm to Buckeye06
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I've always given credit to Bama for when they get into the big games the perform.
Bama has lost their most significant regular season game more often than not during this current run. In fact, I think their only undefeated regular season was 2009.
2011 they lost their biggest home game and got a rematch.
2012 they lost their biggest home game and benefitted from "bridge scheduling" for their conference rivals.
The list goes on and on and on...
People act as if they are unbeatable.
Bama is great at learning from their mistakes, then capitalizing on second chances.
Remember the CFB slogan "Every Game Counts"? Remember ESPN pushing that hard when advertising their product? Then, in 2011, that slogan magically disappeared after The Game of the Century.
It then became "quality losses" and "eye tests".
Again, just another point as to why threads like this are started.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:59 pm to ReauxlTide222
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We need to do away with the conference championship games and every team needs to add a mandatory P5 opponent.
At least this is something we can agree on
I’d also like every conference to play the same amount of conference games.
BTW: if we didn’t have CCG last year Auburn and Wisconsin go over Bama and UGA.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:00 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I’ll ask again, when was Alabama undeserving?
Ask as many times as you want. If the most deserving teams made the playoff, it'd look much different.
quote:
one of the country’s top 2 teams
Wrong. They were one of the top two teams in a pool of four and nothing more.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Both teams lost 1 conference game, with different results as far as how the division shook out. Explain to me how nothing is random about it.
There’s nothing random about it and all teams do in fact control whether they win their division or not.
quote:In you and the Aub's football world, that's exactly what they should do...seeing as OOC games mean next to nothing.
So? They could easily play Tulsa instead and be 11-1.
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