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re: What was it like when Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson?
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:38 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:38 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I think it was the same night as the NBA slam dunk competition (big deal back then) if I remember correctly.
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 5:13 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Don King had destroyed my love for Tyson. I didn't realize that until Tyson was getting his arse beat and I started screaming at the PPV screen for Buster to keep going.
I was a huge fan of Tyson from the early days on HBO all the way up to the Douglas fight but I hated King and you could tell the Don King antics and management were taking a toll on Tyson.
I haven't watched a fight since 2003 when I was watching a heavyweight fight with BOTH boxers being repped by King. One of the guys absolutely pummeled the other guy. One guy looked like he needed a trip to the hospital and the other guy looked like he had been doing mild cardio. Split decision for the hospital bound fighter. Foreman & Merchant couldn't believe it. George said it was the best fight money could buy. King wrecked Tyson and he wrecked my love of the sport.
TLDR Summary. It was shocking but King destroys everything he touches.
I was a huge fan of Tyson from the early days on HBO all the way up to the Douglas fight but I hated King and you could tell the Don King antics and management were taking a toll on Tyson.
I haven't watched a fight since 2003 when I was watching a heavyweight fight with BOTH boxers being repped by King. One of the guys absolutely pummeled the other guy. One guy looked like he needed a trip to the hospital and the other guy looked like he had been doing mild cardio. Split decision for the hospital bound fighter. Foreman & Merchant couldn't believe it. George said it was the best fight money could buy. King wrecked Tyson and he wrecked my love of the sport.
TLDR Summary. It was shocking but King destroys everything he touches.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 6:34 pm to TigerMyth36
Yup. King took over Tyson and ran off everyone. Ruined him as he did Ali
Posted on 4/2/23 at 6:38 pm to ronricks
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Andrew Golota ended Bowe’s career. He gave him two brutal beatings and was DQed in both. Bowe was so undisciplined he built a kitchen in his master bedroom Bowe was a great fighter when motivated. Money and Food changed that.
Agree 100%. When Bowe was at his best, he was great. But we rarely saw it. And I was not a fan of his due to his lack of commitment but felt bad for him in the second Golota fight. It was a devastating beating. His speech was never the same after that fight. At one point, Golota landed like 13 unanswered punches. I thought it was only possible for a heavyweight to take that kind of punishment in a Rocky movie.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:01 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I was very surprised when it happened. And I was mad. I’ve always been a fan of Holyfield and I just knew he was going to be the guy to knock Tyson off his perch first. Buster took that away. Then Tyson went to jail. Evander eventually got Tyson, but it wasn’t what it would have been.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:04 pm to Byrdybyrd05
It just didn't seem real.
Tyson was the legit "baddest mother fricker on the planet" and then the Douglas fight happened.
Tyson was the legit "baddest mother fricker on the planet" and then the Douglas fight happened.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 6:06 am to RolltidePA
I remember where I was. And I was 11.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 6:07 am to prplhze2000
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Yup. King took over Tyson and ran off everyone. Ruined him as he did Ali
King didn't ruin Ali
Posted on 4/3/23 at 6:09 am to MidnightVibe
Also Tyson had a venereal disease at the time
Posted on 4/3/23 at 6:10 am to bayoucracka
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Reminds me the Killers did a song about it
Tyson vs Douglas
I was gonna post this.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 6:12 am to Boodis Man
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Many will disagree, but I believe if Tyson had sticked with Rooney instead of don king’s lackeys, he would’ve retired undefeated. He would’ve beaten Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe if he remained in shape and motivated. He was not the same fighter after getting with don king, and lost most of his skill after the 4 year layoff due to prison
I agree with you that he would have beaten Douglas then Holyfield, then maybe Bowe and a slew of others. I believe he would have eventually been beaten by Lennox Lewis, though.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 6:48 am to MidnightVibe
I wasn't surprised in the least.
I've boxed and learned and sparred karate and aikido.
there was never one second I thought Tyson was some great elusive boxer. he was a big hitter. having a great ability to hit doesn't make you somehow invincible to being hit.
I've boxed and learned and sparred karate and aikido.
there was never one second I thought Tyson was some great elusive boxer. he was a big hitter. having a great ability to hit doesn't make you somehow invincible to being hit.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 7:05 am to MidnightVibe
BS.
Ali was broke cuz of King and the Nation. He stiffed Ali on the Holmes fight. Ali was so broke he settled for $50,000.
Ali was broke cuz of King and the Nation. He stiffed Ali on the Holmes fight. Ali was so broke he settled for $50,000.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 7:54 am to Byrdybyrd05
Tyson didn’t really lose that fight. Douglas was given a 13 second count when Tyson floored him earlier in the fight.
Tyson was trained to fight only a few rounds and go for the knockout - which he successfully did.
The problem was that whacked count basically gave Douglas a way to get up - and going into later rounds - Tyson was winded.
Tyson was trained to fight only a few rounds and go for the knockout - which he successfully did.
The problem was that whacked count basically gave Douglas a way to get up - and going into later rounds - Tyson was winded.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:44 am to theunknownknight
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Tyson didn’t really lose that fight. Douglas was given a 13 second count when Tyson floored him earlier in the fight.
It's no mystery that in boxing there's going to be the occasional "long count" and its nemesis, the "quick stoppage".
If you're a boxing fan, you know about the Dempsey/Tunney long count and the Julio Caesar Chavez/Meldrick Taylor stoppage by Richard Steele with just seconds left in the last round with Taylor ahead on all cards.
I though Lou Duva was going to lose his fricking mind when Steele waved the fight off and Chavez won by TKO.
It happens, just like lopsided score cards where everybody but the judges thought the loser had actually won the fight, sometimes convincingly.
Remember Roy Jones getting robbed in the Olympics in his Gold Medal match???? That was outright blatant and the whole sporting world knew it, but it didn't change the outcome.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:13 am to theunknownknight
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Tyson didn’t really lose that fight. Douglas was given a 13 second count when Tyson floored him earlier in the fight.
Tyson was trained to fight only a few rounds and go for the knockout - which he successfully did.
The problem was that whacked count basically gave Douglas a way to get up - and going into later rounds - Tyson was winded.
Anyone that saw that fight would have known it was a one-sided deal for Douglas. He completely exposed Tyson with his boxing skills. It was the beginning of the unraveling of the Tyson mystique. In many ways, he simply never recovered from that beatdown. Personally and professionally.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:01 am to CelticDog
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there was never one second I thought Tyson was some great elusive boxer. he was a big hitter. having a great ability to hit doesn't make you somehow invincible to being hit.
He actually was an incredible defensive fighter. I suspect the extent of your boxing experience is in the basement with one of your buddies.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:04 am to prplhze2000
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BS.
Ali was broke cuz of King and the Nation. He stiffed Ali on the Holmes fight. Ali was so broke he settled for $50,000.
King didn't promote an Ali fight until the Foreman fight.
And Ali made 5 million dollars off that fight. And then 4.5 million off the thrilla in manila.
If he was so broke he had to come back and fight Holmes while clearly already in the beginning stages of Parkinson's, that's on him.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:05 am to gumbo2176
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I though Lou Duva was going to lose his fricking mind when Steele waved the fight off and Chavez won by TKO.
That one was rough.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:39 am to bamameister
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Anyone that saw that fight would have known it was a one-sided deal for Douglas. He completely exposed Tyson with his boxing skills. It was the beginning of the unraveling of the Tyson mystique. In many ways, he simply never recovered from that beatdown. Personally and professionally.
Every word of this is true. Tyson bought into his invincibility and didn't properly train for that fight.
Add to that Douglas had recently lost his mom and was willing to die in that ring instead of his usual performance. He fought tall and from long range using his reach and movement to avoid much of what Tyson did to opponents.
Was the count long in the 8th round----yeah, by my count it was and Douglas could have been counted out, but he wasn't.
Then in the 9th, Tyson continues the onslaught but tired and Douglas dominated the tail end of the round, having Tyson hurt. Come the 10th, he just put the icing on the cake and beat Tyson to the canvas to suffer his first loss.
Like many fighters who get up for one fight, Douglas lost the very next one to Holyfield.
Same thing happened to Andy Ruiz after he beat Anthony Joshua in their first fight. He fought Joshua a second time and lost badly coming in even heavier than he did for the first fight and looking totally outclassed.
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