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re: What school has the highest standards for ATH admission: Duke, ND or Standford?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:23 pm to TigerSaintInDallas
quote:MIT is not Ivy, they are in a league of their own with Cal Tech, and athletics mean absolutely nothing to those two schools. In fact, Cal Tech boasts about how bad their basketball team is because it proves they are smarter(call teach lost 330 straight games). Like i said the only thing I can prove with evidence is Ivy league schools accepted me as well as offered me scholarships.
A 28 ACT would not get you into Ivies today, athlete or not. Even football players I'm sure need at least a 30+ on the ACT
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:24 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Naa. Nd has lost many players through the years because they did not meet univ standards.
It's not necessarily GPA or act scores but foreign language and math requirements prior to admission. For example, all athletes need to take algebra 1 to qualify for admission.
Nd might lose out on McKenzie this year bc he might not qualify.
It's not necessarily GPA or act scores but foreign language and math requirements prior to admission. For example, all athletes need to take algebra 1 to qualify for admission.
Nd might lose out on McKenzie this year bc he might not qualify.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:26 pm to Walking the Earth
He can't name shite
Dude is talking out of his arse
Dude is talking out of his arse
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:28 pm to rocket31
quote:Ding ding ding. Now what the will do, is inform the athlete and scurry to find an acceptable course. It all comes down to how smart and creative compliance wants to get. The strangest things keep athletes out of certain schools and in to others. The TOEFL requirement has screwed LSU out of many recruits who were smart as hell.
It's not necessarily GPA or act scores but foreign language and math requirements prior to admission
ETA: You can say I am talking out of my arse all you want, but it just makes you come off as bitter.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:32 pm to lsupride87
We just agreed that it's not the same. So your statement that a player who can get into LSU also can qualify for ND or Stanford is inherently false.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:36 pm to rocket31
quote:Let me clarify for those who want to try and not take the message of my words, there are certain minor requirements that are unique to many schools. But to believe a Stanford or Nd athlete has the grades of a normal student or is on a completely different level than a Lsu or Bama is incorrect. There are also instances when a recruit cant get into a "dumb" school but can get into a "smart" one. Here is a quote from Northwestern on the process, "As with any school, the admissions process is subjective, and Northwestern seems more willing than some to forgive a player who started slowly in high school but improved his grades, or a player who dealt with extenuating circumstances like a family member's death. "Everyone is dealt with here on a case-by-case basis," said Fitzgerald." Leaves them open to let in whoever the hell they want
We just agreed that it's not the same. So your statement that a player who can get into LSU also can qualify for ND or Stanford is inherently false.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:41 pm to rocket31
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Naa. Nd has lost many players through the years because they did not meet univ standards.
It's not necessarily GPA or act scores but foreign language and math requirements prior to admission. For example, all athletes need to take algebra 1 to qualify for admission.
Nd might lose out on McKenzie this year bc he might not qualify.
Yeah, that's true. That kind of goes along with the whole JUCO/transfer thing I mentioned earlier. It's more about the credits than the quantitative stats.
I've also read there are three "tiers" to GPA/SAT/ACT admissions at ND. The first is the one for your average non-athlete student. The second is for a football player (much lower than the average student but higher than the NCAA requirements). And the third is the NCAA requirements. The university allows BK a certain number exemptions each year in the third group, but he can't exceed it. No idea if that's true or not. I do know a decent number of players and most are definitely in the realm where they would fit in that second tier, but there are some that really seem like they'd have a lot of issues academically. My roommate my sophomore year was on scholarship for football and he definitely wouldn't have made it in without football, but he wasn't exactly dumb, either, probably in that second tier. It's hard to know exactly from an outsider's perspective how it works.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:43 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:The stress that the compliance department is under is remarkable. Athletics is a million dollar industry and they stretch the rules as much as possible
It's hard to know exactly from an outsider's perspective how it works.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:45 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:This is very similar to Lsu and other schools. The coach is only allowed certain complete cellar dwellers academically, because compliance doesnt want to risk too low of a graduation APR in the future
I've also read there are three "tiers" to GPA/SAT/ACT admissions at ND. The first is the one for your average non-athlete student. The second is for a football player (much lower than the average student but higher than the NCAA requirements). And the third is the NCAA requirements. The university allows BK a certain number exemptions each year in the third group
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:14 pm to lsupride87
I think Duke is becoming more flexible, and the results are showing on the field.
But if you're a highly touted fb recruit and have a 3.4 and 25+ ACT score, you can get in anywhere(FBS) except maybe Stanford.
But if you're a highly touted fb recruit and have a 3.4 and 25+ ACT score, you can get in anywhere(FBS) except maybe Stanford.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:37 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
WHile the NCAA minimum applies to all, many schools require much more to get in; athlete or not. The NCAA minimum is a total fricking joke. I know of many cases where baseball players were not admitted to Tulane and Rice because of low test scores and GPA's even though they met the NCAA numbers. I have always been told by people in coaching that Stanford is hard to get admitted to.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:50 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
quote:Just go on rivals and you can get proof guys are getting into Stanford with lower than 25s
25+ ACT score, you can get in anywhere(FBS) except maybe Stanford.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:52 pm to lsupride87
Just go on rivals and you can get proof guys are getting into Stanford with lower than 25s
OK, but I guarantee you that Stanford rejects many players with 25+ ACT scores.
OK, but I guarantee you that Stanford rejects many players with 25+ ACT scores.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:58 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
quote:They do. This is how it goes: 5* stud can get in with a pulse, 4* may need to sweet talk compliance a little, but a pulse will prolly do. 3* will need to show he stayed awake in high school and made 3.0. Anything below will need to be a great high school student to make it appear that there team is made of scholars.
OK, but I guarantee you that Stanford rejects many players with 25+ ACT scores.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
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They do. This is how it goes: 5* stud can get in with a pulse, 4* may need to sweet talk compliance a little, but a pulse will prolly do. 3* will need to show he stayed awake in high school and made 3.0. Anything below will need to be a great high school student to make it appear that there team is made of scholars.
You have no idea how it works. Quit talking out your arse
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:03 pm to SaintCajun
quote:I know more first hand knowledge then anyone in this thread and that is a fact. Believe me or believe what you see on tv. Doesnt make a difference in my day at all
You have no idea how it works. Quit talking out your arse
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:04 pm to lsupride87
If it was that easy, Stanford would have been ranking a little higher in the recruiting rankings. "Just needing a pulse" plus "NoCal" plus "Stanford education" would be a pretty tough combination to beat. 
Plus, Stanford isn't really having a problem with academically ineligible players so they obviously can do the work. Well, unless you're implying that Stanford is not only letting in morons but rigging their grades, too. And all of this would be for what reason again?
Plus, Stanford isn't really having a problem with academically ineligible players so they obviously can do the work. Well, unless you're implying that Stanford is not only letting in morons but rigging their grades, too. And all of this would be for what reason again?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:06 pm to lsupride87
I'm glad you know everybody's past employment history and unless you've worked at Stanford you do not know. And yes you do care because every time somebody has told you that you don't know what you're talking about, you try and justify it by saying things like:
quote:
I know more first hand knowledge then anyone in this thread and that is a fact.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:07 pm to Walking the Earth
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Plus, Stanford isn't really having a problem with academically ineligible players so they obviously can do the work. Well, unless you're implying that Stanford is not only letting in morons but rigging their grades, too. And all of this would be for what reason again?
I'm not saying that the course load isn't challenging, but Stanford's known for not letting its students fall behind academically.
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