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re: What is wrong with FSU football?

Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:41 pm to
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Goddamn. I mean all FSU fans say Taggart inherited a dumpster fire and he had a track record of rebuilding programs... That seems kind of shitty



Kinda racist too
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:51 pm to
Coaching
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:52 pm to
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Sounds like your fanbase is just shitty

FSU fans everywhere blame this on “Jimbo quit” but a real power program doesn’t just roll up because a coach goes downhill.

You thought life was unfair, but did you consider:

A&M- fans always there and stand entire game, are repaid with no top four finishes and one Heisman since WW2

FSU, Miami, USC, t.u.- Struggle to fill stands and are rewarded with innumerable MNCs and individual honors

Sorry I couldn't resist
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 7:59 pm to
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It seemed like things were going well until Jimbo's marriage fell apart because he wife was cheating on him. Didn't that story break around 2016 when the wheels started to come off for FSU?



Think is was 2015. He was stressed enough with his sons health, but the Candi stuff going public changed him. He was humiliated by that

I don't know what they would have done without Dalvin Cook in 2015 and '16
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:02 pm to
A big problem for FSU is location. It's a haul for fans from central and south Fla to get to Tally.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:05 pm to
Still won the 2017 Orange Bowl and played Clemson close I believe. I remember yall had some blowout losses after 2014 though, so I was not onboard with our hire Jimbo at all costs brigade. I would've taken Herman over him
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11880 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:09 pm to
Bobby Petrino rode his cycle and broke them

Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:10 pm to
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Still won the 2017 Orange Bowl and played Clemson close I believe. I remember yall had some blowout losses after 2014 though, so I was not onboard with our hire Jimbo at all costs brigade. I would've taken Herman over him


Giving up 63 to Louisville, and having guys quit on the field vs UNC in 2016 were eye openers for me
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 pm to
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Bobby Petrino rode his cycle and broke them



Petrino gifted Taggart a win in '18. That was one of the dumbest coaching decisions I've ever seen
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:15 pm to
So are y'all in knee deep with the budget if the season happens w/o fans or limited schedule? It looks like Taggart taking the FAU job will help the buyout
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:19 pm to
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So are y'all in knee deep with the budget if the season happens w/o fans or limited schedule?


The ad came out this week and said this fiscal year won't be as bad as they had feared. I don't think anyone knows what things will look like beyond August
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11880 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:19 pm to
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Petrino gifted Taggart a win in '18. That was one of the dumbest coaching decisions I've ever seen


It was easily one of the worst I had ever seen
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:20 pm to
I love how the usuals got triggered over calling Willie Taggart an Affirmative Action hire and then he turned out to clearly be one.... because he sucked arse.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:24 pm to
So 1.5 seasons is enough to rebuild a program?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:25 pm to
Good coaches show improvement in year 2.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58067 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:29 pm to
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When 5 of your 6 division opponents are NC State, Wake, BC, Louisville, and Syracuse, attendance will always drop off a lot when the team isn’t good. The ACC in its current format is not long for this world.


The ACC refusing to do divisions by geography and forcing schools w/almost zero history w/o each other into the same divisions is so stupid.



They should either realign their divisions power imbalance be damned or ideally just get rid of them completely and go to a pod system. The way it's set up right now guarantees poor attendance for every single school.

Also, taking UL over WVU was a massive mistake b/c it essentially neuters their ability to make a Northern division w/rivalry games. UL fits better in the Big 12 while WVU should be w/it's old Big East/Independent rivals.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:31 pm to
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Good coaches show improvement in year 2.

5-7 in season one, 4-5 when he was fired last season. It's not like they were getting blown out by WKU like Chad Morris' Arkansas was
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71599 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:32 pm to
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A big problem for FSU is location. It's a haul for fans from central and south Fla to get to Tally.


Has it moved in the last 3 or 4 years?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71599 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:35 pm to
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The ACC refusing to do divisions by geography and forcing schools w/almost zero history w/o each other into the same divisions is so stupid.


ACC South would have potential but the North would still be trash. They planned on epic FSU/Miami championship meetings but FSU has been up and down and Miami has sucked.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12830 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:38 pm to
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Has it moved in the last 3 or 4 years?



People aren't gonna make that trip for every game when

1. The product is bad
2. Stay home and watch in HD

At some point down the road FSU and lots of other programs should take seating out.
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