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re: What is Westbrook realistically supposed to do?
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:31 pm to slackster
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:31 pm to slackster
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He went 1-4 because his team was pathetic when he was off the court. Not really sure his answer is all that wrong. When he was on the court, the Thunder outscored Houston in 4 of the 5 games
Something philosophically about the team is off. Maybe it's nothing more than what others have said, this roster was built for KD and Westbrook, not for only one or the other.
What I'm saying is this idea that one guy needs to go beserk to have a chance is not a viable strategy, so why go with it in the first place? To win some games in the short term and get bounced in the first round? This team is going nowhere unless it becomes a team operation.
This never should've been the year of the Russell Westbrook triple double, because him doing that can get you to the playoffs. They had no business being in the playoffs. It should've been a season to determine what pieces of the team can be included as viable components of a contender. The pieces that can't need to be dealt away. This should've been a rebuild year.
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:32 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:33 pm to TotesMcGotes
They didn't trade Harden. They wouldn't pony up the dough to pay him. They also wouldn't commit to him being in the starting lineup, but relegated to a 6th man still.
I remember the whole deal going down. He was offered a LOT of money by OKC, but Houston offered 80 million to the 50 by OKC.
Harden all but said it was about the money and had OKC paid equal he would have stayed (at least insinuated as much).
I also am sure there is more to it than just money, for sure. There always is more to everything we hear or see.
As for Ibaka and Durant?? Dang, they couldn't keep either.
The fact remains that they failed to keep their core group together (unlike the Spurs and now Golden State). It truly is tragic all the way around. I was all on the OKC pain train back when they made the finals against the Heat. They were young, fun to watch, and a bright future it seemed.
Now they are going to be trash money till the day basketball is dead.
I remember the whole deal going down. He was offered a LOT of money by OKC, but Houston offered 80 million to the 50 by OKC.
Harden all but said it was about the money and had OKC paid equal he would have stayed (at least insinuated as much).
I also am sure there is more to it than just money, for sure. There always is more to everything we hear or see.
As for Ibaka and Durant?? Dang, they couldn't keep either.
The fact remains that they failed to keep their core group together (unlike the Spurs and now Golden State). It truly is tragic all the way around. I was all on the OKC pain train back when they made the finals against the Heat. They were young, fun to watch, and a bright future it seemed.
Now they are going to be trash money till the day basketball is dead.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:37 pm to Geauxgurt
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You need to understand that Rockets' fans are head over heels in love with a guy that plays half a game and coasts on defense unlike Russ
Good one.
You're talking about the guy who ranked dead last during the season in contested 3s for players who play more than 30mpg?
He had less contested 3s than Rudy gobert and deandre Jordan. Pretty sad actually.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:38 pm to reo45
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They didn't trade Harden.
They definitely traded Harden. Harden and OKC couldn't agree on an extension so they traded him and got Kevin Martin and Jeremy Lamb and some picks in return. One of the picks I think turned in to Adams?
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:40 pm to reo45
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They didn't trade Harden.
Yes they did.
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I remember the whole deal going down.
NO you don't.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:41 pm to rlebl39
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One of the picks I think turned in to Adams?
Yes
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:43 pm to rlebl39
It was technically a trade, but it was first and foremost because OKC and Harden couldn't come to terms with an extension. That is why he was traded. They didn't find it worth matching the 80 million that Houston granted.
Fail on OKC's part.
Fail on OKC's part.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:45 pm to reo45
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They didn't trade Harden. They wouldn't pony up the dough to pay him. They also wouldn't commit to him being in the starting lineup, but relegated to a 6th man still. I remember the whole deal going down. He was offered a LOT of money by OKC, but Houston offered 80 million to the 50 by OKC. Harden all but said it was about the money and had OKC paid equal he would have stayed (at least insinuated as much). I also am sure there is more to it than just money, for sure. There always is more to everything we hear or see. As for Ibaka and Durant?? Dang, they couldn't keep either. The fact remains that they failed to keep their core group together (unlike the Spurs and now Golden State). It truly is tragic all the way around. I was all on the OKC pain train back when they made the finals against the Heat. They were young, fun to watch, and a bright future it seemed. Now they are going to be trash money till the day basketball is dead.
Fail.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:48 pm to Goldrush25
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What I'm saying is this idea that one guy needs to go beserk to have a chance is not a viable strategy, so why go with it in the first place? To win some games in the short term and get bounced in the first round? This team is going nowhere unless it becomes a team operation.
Agree with this. They're in no man's land.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:31 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Don't care. OKC stole the Sonics so watching them lose is still beautiful to me and always will be. frick Clay Bennet... His tears are delicious.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:39 pm to dabigfella
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Kanter
Gibson
Oladipo
Sabonis
Abrines
Mcdermott
those are all very good players
Hell, Jerami Grant looked better than all those bastards in this series.
and who the frick is Jerami Grant?
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:49 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Second leading scorer for most of the series was Roberson. I mean c'mon man
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:53 pm to americanoutlaw
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Second leading scorer for most of the series was Roberson. I mean c'mon man
If this is true, then Westbrook or Donovan truly are shitty. Kanter is a legitimate scoring threat downlow and never did shite this series. They never even attempted any low-post play except for Westbrook (of course).
What a shite show OKC was and is. Houston looked like shite too at the end.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:54 pm to dabigfella
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Kanter
is a huge liability defensively. Adams is the better big. vs houston playing both at the same time is a bad idea.
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Gibson, Oladipo
that's why they played a lot. all in all they're still limited players.
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Sabonis, Abrines
so freaking raw. sub 40% shooters for the year.
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Mcdermott
good shooter, defensive liability. Still think he should have played more than Roberson.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:37 am to reo45
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They didn't trade Harden
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It was technically a trade,
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Fail on your part.
Jesus man
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:45 am to Geauxgurt
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coasts on defense unlike Russ
this has got to be the worse meme of this series/MVP race.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 7:46 am
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:10 am to reo45
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Kanter is a legitimate scoring threat downlow
You're right.
But he's also so atrocious on defense that his coach stated during a game "can't play Kanter"
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:11 am to Dire Wolf
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this has got to be the worse meme of this series/MVP race.
Agreed. Westbrook is a better defender, but neither are very good.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:17 am to dabigfella
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Kanter
Gibson
Oladipo
Sabonis
Abrines
Mcdermott
Those are all very good players
I hope this was sarcasm
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