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re: What is the board's opinion on lacrosse?

Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:19 pm to
okay? and football has 30 second breaks between plays. that doesn't mean it's not physically demanding.

if you haven't ever played it, then you don't know exactly how much athleticism these guys are displaying every game all game.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:23 pm to
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read my other posts, dumbass. I've made more points than you


You sound really pissed off right now

I've been around enough DI athletes to know that there's not much of a difference when you're talking about championship caliber players, a-hole. And I've got a working relationship with a few former Syracuse players (among other schools) that I work/coach with and they're comparable to the kids I've seen sign to play for high level college baseball teams.

If you're talking about college baseball, football, basketball and lacrosse with a few other sports there's not much of a difference in athleticism.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:23 pm to
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if you haven't ever played it, then you don't know exactly how much athleticism these guys are displaying every game all game.



It sounds like the players that play lacrosse have a lot of endurance, which is an athletic trait that is discounted (and frankly, not respected by most people because they don't realize that often it is innate, just like more explosive, visible traits), but that does not make them, by definition, more athletic. That is entirely dependent on the individual's characteristics.

It doesn't sound all that much different from soccer, and I'd argue that skill is more important in soccer than athleticism, since all the running is aimless if you cannot control the ball properly.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:23 pm to
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I don't see why endurance is discounted as an athletic trait.

Especially considering it's humans' BEST athletic trait. On a scale of the entire animal kingdom, we are slow and can't jump for shite. What we can do is run forever (and use our thumbs and large brains to make and wield tools). To be honest, the greatest athlete alive is probably a distance runner. That's the one athletic skill at which humans excel.

I still don't see why someone can't enjoy both baseball and lacrosse. I played lacrosse because A) everybody did and B) I really liked hitting people.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Crowknowsbest
Where did you play at Crow? I'm always looking for more coaches?
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:27 pm to




Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:27 pm to
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Especially considering it's humans' BEST athletic trait.


Maybe because people take it for granted? There are some people who just have the innate ability to run, and those people aren't lesser athletes just because they don't have the same explosive characteristics as other athletes. People associate activities that involve fast-twitch muscle fibers as more athletic than ones that involve slow-twitch muscle fibers, which is a ridiculous contention. They are equally athletic in my view.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:28 pm to
again, not impressed with the endurance aspect...when I am watching soccer, their endurance is far down on the list of things that people notice or care about...

when watching basketball, no one gives a shite about a player's endurance...

we watch to be entertained...not to be wow-ed by someone's endurance.

I am sure lacrosse is a fine sport...extremely similar to soccer, ice hockey, and field hockey...it will never be huge in the US because it is difficult to watch...slower than hockey, and doesn't require the skills of a soccer player.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Where did you play at Crow? I'm always looking for more coaches?

W&L. Only played my freshman year until I hurt my knee and hung it up.

I'm already coaching some on a volunteer basis.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:30 pm to
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.when I am watching soccer, their endurance is far down on the list of things that people notice or care about...


I disagree. There are players who are famous for their "engine," or ability to cover ground quickly. Having that endurance is simply a baseline requirement to even play the sport. There are players who don't have it, and it reflects their play on the field.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:30 pm to
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W&L
Nice

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I'm already coaching some on a volunteer basis.
FU then!! High school or juniors?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171952 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:31 pm to
what age? I coached high school for a few years and it was fun as hell. we won a state championship my second year
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2757 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:31 pm to
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it will never be huge in the US because it is difficult to insert appropriate amount of commerical breaks for advertisers


FIFY

Also, Lacrosse brings up a topic no one wants brought up - Native Americans and our treatment of them

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:31 pm to
so you think Bo Jackson, in his prime, is less athletic than some dude that can win the Boston Marathon?

I think we can all agree that the term "athleticism" is not easily defined....
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171952 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:32 pm to
lol no one said endurance was the ONLY thing.

come on, you aren't this dense.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:33 pm to
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Maybe because people take it for granted?

Also, it's not exciting. A human, given a long enough course, can outrun a horse. It's kind of amazing, our capacity to just keep going.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:33 pm to
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FU then!! High school or juniors?

I help with my old HS team after work a few days a week and coach a team of 11-12 year olds with a couple old HS teammates who played elsewhere in college.

ETA: it's like a youth select travel team, which is super fun to coach because they care a lot about it and are actually good.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26792 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:34 pm to
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ol no one said endurance was the ONLY thing.
sure, but it sure seems to be the prevailing theme...
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2757 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Bo Jackson


Was able to play two sports because baseball isnt that trying on the body unless you pitch or catch.

Jim Brown was the GOAT
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171952 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:36 pm to
because the sports have similar amounts of skill and coordination required. endurance and speed is what brings lacrosse above baseball. it's nowhere near the only thing though.

in a sport where you're running the length of the field several times during a game, endurance is a huge part of the skill set required of the players.
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