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re: What is a scenario(s) that keeps 13-0 Wisconsin out of the playoff?

Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:26 pm to
A 13-0 Big Ten Champion is making the playoffs, end of story. Doesn't matter how crappy their resume is.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:27 pm to
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Look, I don't doubt at all that Wisconsin will lose. They aren't that good. But if they continue to get it done on the football field, they should be rewarded for that.


It would really test the mantra they have of putting "the best four teams" in the playoff. No one with a clue would think Wisky is one of the best four teams
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:33 pm to
The issue with that, is if last week Michigan St misses that field goal, and Penn St wins that game and they go on to beat Wisconsin in the championship. Everyone would claim they should be in.

So now all of a sudden, Penn St loses to a pretty good Michigan St team by 3, and they are no longer a good team anymore?
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:33 pm to
Sorry, but I refuse to believe wisky is a top 4 team after winning against a bunch of bottom feeders....BIG needs to restructure their divisions...so lopsided
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:38 pm to
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LSU would get an at-large Cotton Bowl bid

No we wouldn't.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1733 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:48 pm to
What the committee considers:

CFP

quote:

The selection committee ranks the teams based on the members’ evaluation of the teams’ performance on the field, using conference championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and comparison of results against common opponents to decide among teams that are comparable.


That should actually concern ND if 4 P5 Conf Champs finish with 1 loss or less.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:49 pm to
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to decide among teams that are comparable
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:49 pm to
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A 13-0 Big Ten Champion is making the playoffs, end of story. Doesn't matter how crappy their resume is.


this is simply illogical

since there are 5 P5 conferences, simple math says an undefeated record will not guarantee a spot.

in a scenario of 5 conferences, all undefeated, one is left out.

as such, best resume is rewarded
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16647 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:54 pm to
An Undefeated record for a P5 team will always guarantee a spot, unless of course, all 5 conferences have an undefeated champion. It is really that simple.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:57 pm to
just because you end your post with "its really that simple" doesnt make it true or simple.

my lord
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16647 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:02 pm to
We will have to just disagree. You want to punish a team just because the conference they play in is trash. That's not right, but suit yourself.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148071 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:03 pm to
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You want to punish a team just because the conference they play in is trash. That's not right,
how
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16647 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:08 pm to
Wisconsin has no control over the fact that Northwestern, Nebraska, Purdue, Maryland, Indiana, Illinois and Minnesota are not good football teams.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:12 pm to
And it just sucks for Oklahoma that Ohio State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, and whoever they play in the Big 12 championship are?

Oklahoma will play 4 or 5 teams that are better than the 2nd best team Wisconsin will play.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4601 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:13 pm to
If an undefeated Wiscy is left out when there are 1-loss teams ahead of them, we'll see playoff expansion get here with a swiftness.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148071 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:13 pm to
But they aren't good. That's the whole point
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38041 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:14 pm to
When the committee was formed, they declined to require a Conference Champion.

They've consistently said 4 best teams regardless of conference.

They take into account the Polls, SOS, head to head and W-L...and that's about it. If there are two teams close, they will factor in Conference Champion as it's an extra game and extra win.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16647 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:17 pm to
Oklahoma has 1 loss. It sucks because they lost to Iowa State. It really does, If you want to go to the playoffs. Don't lose a game, because if you do, there is a chance that your playoff hopes are eliminated. No matter how good of a football team you are.

Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:22 pm to
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It really does, If you want to go to the playoffs. Don't lose a game

So you'd put undefeated Wisconsin in over 11-1 Notre Dame?



Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:25 pm to
Unfortunately, cfb is so wild that we won't get to see this playout. Really would be interesting to see. everyone would know Wisconsins resume is week, but would they have the guts to leave out undefeated big ten champ?
Really have a hard time imagining that tbh
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