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We now know Belichick is a fraud

Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
4954 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:27 pm
Without Tom he’s just an average coach.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:29 pm to
He’s now moved to fifth on my best active NFL coaches list, behind: Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, John Harbaugh and Pete Carroll.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25522 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:30 pm to
It’s crazy that when one of the greatest players and leaders of all time leaves your franchise, it’s tough to overcome.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25522 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:31 pm to
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Mike Tomlin


Hasn’t done shite without Big Ben

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Sean Payton


Psh, let’s see how things play out without Brees

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Pete Carroll


Hasn’t done shite without Russ
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:35 pm to
I know this may blow your mind but every great NFL dynasty had a hall of fame quarterback. Another crazy idea, it’s easier to win with HOF QBs.

I just want to see a list of all the coaches winning big with scrubs.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Streelman
Southeast
Member since Dec 2020
1374 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:37 pm to
let bill go coach the Bucs and see what happens
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:39 pm to
What about BIGANDY?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112312 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:54 pm to
We gonna do this every week now?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36900 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:59 pm to
Winning with a rookie qb is hard. Pats are 2-4, with two last second losses to one loss teams. And a loss to a pretty good Saints team.

I think belichick is actually doing a very good job this year.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:15 am to
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know this may blow your mind but every great NFL dynasty had a hall of fame quarterback. Another crazy idea, it’s easier to win with HOF QBs.



Sure but your theory on protecting Belichek has two glaring weaknesses:
1.) he pushed Brady out. Furthermore, did a shite job trying to keep him happy
2.) he had YEARS to develop a decent back up to Brady. Traded them all away.

He had the easiest situation possible to make the transition. He should have sucked Brady’s D until he had a great back up situation that was going to take over. Instead, he allowed to it fall apart without a transition plan in place.
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
2871 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:03 am to
This is stupid. Lose the greatest QB of
all time? No problem? Get a grip. Belichick is
a Hall of Fame coach. The greatest of his generation.

I'm not a fan of his or the Pats, but only an idiot
would say he is a fraud. Idiot.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
4954 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:08 am to
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1.) he pushed Brady out. Furthermore, did a shite job trying to keep him happy 2.) he had YEARS to develop a decent back up to Brady. Traded them all away. He had the easiest situation possible to make the transition. He should have sucked Brady’s D until he had a great back up situation that was going to take over. Instead, he allowed to it fall apart without a transition plan in place.

This is 100% correct. I would like to amend my original statement. Instead of being an average coach, he’s a shitty coach.
Without Brady he wouldn’t have accomplished shite.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 7:10 am
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:14 am to
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I know this may blow your mind but every great NFL dynasty had a hall of fame quarterback. Another crazy idea, it’s easier to win with HOF QBs.

I just want to see a list of all the coaches winning big with scrubs.
The Redskins dynasty went to 4 SBs & won 3 without a HOF QB. Gibbs took an 8 year veteran who had never been to the playoffs ( Theismann) & went to 2 SBs. Won 2 more with Doug Williams, Mark Rypien & an NFC Championship game with Jay Schroeder. Gibbs Came out of retirement & took Jason Campbell & Todd Collins to the playoffs.



When did Drew Bledsoe become a scrub? Bill B was 5-13 with him as a starter.


Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
1964 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:16 am to
Anybody that seriously thinks Tomlin is a good coach does not really know the game.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13624 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:17 am to
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It’s crazy that when one of the greatest players and leaders of all time leaves your franchise, it’s tough to overcome.


True, but how was his record before the GOAT arrived? He was 42-58. Also, he has been to a total of two playoff games without Brady. He’s won one playoff game without Brady.

Brady has four playoff wins and a Super Bowl without a Belichick. Meanwhile, Belichick has one playoff win and winning percentage of 42% prior to GOAT arriving.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 7:25 am
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13236 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:27 am to
He made a blunder letting brady go but that guy is the king.
He has 2 more rings than brady.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75412 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:44 am to
I'm no Pat's fan but they are doing pretty well with Mac despite a bad OL and an even worse WR group.
Posted by Gator Mike
Member since Sep 2015
532 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:46 am to
They've lost four games this year.

They lost to Miami because they fumbled inside the Dolphins' 10 yard line late in the 4th quarter down by a point.

New Orleans legit beat the heck out of them.

They lost to Tampa because Nick Folk hit the upright.

They lost to Dallas in overtime.

Let's not act like they're the '76 Buccaneers. They're arguably a few plays away from being 5-1 with a rookie quarterback instead of 2-4.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 7:48 am
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:51 am to
Bill is a great coach but he has made some mistakes as the GM. Letting Brady go, investing a ton of money into average skill players, drafting poorly, etc. Brady used to be able to make up for that stuff. Normal QBs cannot do that. I think GM BB has made it tougher on coach BB
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:23 am to
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I just want to see a list of all the coaches winning big with scrubs.


Jon Gruden
Brian Billick
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