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re: Watching Haney vs Loma
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:22 am to bamameister
Posted on 5/21/23 at 12:22 am to bamameister
Haney didn’t win this fight.
Close fight.
Not a robbery.
Two high level elite fighters going back and forth.
Loma won the 10th 11th 12th.
I had it 7-5 Loma.
Excellent fight.
And yes both are in the lb for lb conversation .
Close fight.
Not a robbery.
Two high level elite fighters going back and forth.
Loma won the 10th 11th 12th.
I had it 7-5 Loma.
Excellent fight.
And yes both are in the lb for lb conversation .
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:37 am to prplngldtigr
No it’s a robbery. They had Haney winning 3 of the first 4. That is pure comedy. In no universe did Haney win The first 2 and Loma def took 3 of tge first 4 rounds.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:12 am to ExpoTiger
I see the same reaction here that I saw on a boxing site I sometimes go to-----Loma not getting credit for what I imagine were the "close rounds" that could have gone either way.
I'll have to wait until they play the fight on TV to watch it to see how I'd have scored it, but if going by what I've read so far, it looks like boxing is still broken.
I'll have to wait until they play the fight on TV to watch it to see how I'd have scored it, but if going by what I've read so far, it looks like boxing is still broken.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:14 am to gumbo2176
I felt like it was a split decision, I do feel Loma was robbed though and we need a rematch soon.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:09 am to IcantBelieveItsNotBu
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we need a rematch soon.
You're falling for boxing's current business model, that everyone hates.
The first match is about setting up the second match. The second match leaves one side sore about the result. A third match decides ONCE and FOR ALL who the better fighter was (usually after one of them is too old to fight as well as they did in the first fight).
I told my brother that Loma/Haney should be an interesting fight, but I would never bet on it. He asked why, and I said because Loma is a great fighter with extraordinary ability, but I think he's on the take. I'm not surprised this fight ended the way it did. I'm actually glad I didn't watch it, and I'm a HUGE boxing fan.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:18 am to SpqrTiger
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He asked why, and I said because Loma is a great fighter with extraordinary ability, but I think he's on the take
That's an odd stance. Why would you think that? The guy took a year off boxing to go back to Ukraine to be in the military and missed out of at least 2 possible paydays, and being 35, he's not long for boxing at his weight class. The guy is obviously a man of principle and conviction to do that.
I say the guys got WAY more integrity that you seem to not give him credit for.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:45 am to gumbo2176
Loma being a slow starter has cost him two matches now, Teo and Haney. I know the purpose and understand but he really needs to become more aggressive before round 6
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:46 am to IcantBelieveItsNotBu
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felt like it was a split decision, I do feel Loma was robbed though and we need a rematch soon.
How can you say you thought it was a split decision but one aide was robbed… that makes zero sense.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:51 am to GolfIsGood
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People blame MMA for the downfall of professional boxing, but it is decisions like this that have and continue to kill the sport. No accountability.
I used to be a huge boxing fan (still a fan of the training and skill involved), but this is why I can’t watch hyped events anymore. I equate them to figure skating.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:18 am to IcantBelieveItsNotBu
Loma did not start slow in this fight.
He won the first round.
I had it 4-3 Haney after 7.
Could have been 4-3 Loma.
This fight was nonstop action from start to finish.
He won the first round.
I had it 4-3 Haney after 7.
Could have been 4-3 Loma.
This fight was nonstop action from start to finish.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:19 am to prplngldtigr
The decision was bullshite and you could see it coming. Hell, Andre Ward practically blew Haney off on live TV pre-fight.
Boxing is it's own worst enemy. Hell the other night we actually had the President of the WBC actually reverse a call MID-FIGHT on a knock down that was completely bullshite.
I thought Loma won and I thought it wasn't particularly close. He clearly won the 3 of the first 4 rounds and won 3 of the last 4. That's six of 12 right there alone with the other 6 could have gone either way.
The dipshit that scored it 116-112 shouldn't be allowed to watch another fight much less score one.
More importantly, Lomachenko showed that his much discussed demise is VERY premature. His skill level is simply unmatched in boxing right now. Yes, Haney slowed his relentless pressing with body shots but Loma was never hurt. Loma had Haney hurt multiple times last night and didn't finish him. Much credit to Haney for that.
I disagree with one of the posters. The lightweight division is one of the most entertaining in boxing right now. It's one of the few where the best will fight the best.
Tyson Fury want's to keep fighting over rated British tomato cans. No one will fight Usyk. The Charlo brothers are scared of everyone that might have a shot at beating them. Canelo is on the downslide and everyone knows Bivol has his number. Arum won't let Beterbiev fight Bivol.
Crawdad won't fight Spence and neither of them will fight Boots or Ortiz.
Innuoe is destroying everyone they put in front of him so LW is the only division where good fights good.
Boxing is it's own worst enemy. Hell the other night we actually had the President of the WBC actually reverse a call MID-FIGHT on a knock down that was completely bullshite.
I thought Loma won and I thought it wasn't particularly close. He clearly won the 3 of the first 4 rounds and won 3 of the last 4. That's six of 12 right there alone with the other 6 could have gone either way.
The dipshit that scored it 116-112 shouldn't be allowed to watch another fight much less score one.
More importantly, Lomachenko showed that his much discussed demise is VERY premature. His skill level is simply unmatched in boxing right now. Yes, Haney slowed his relentless pressing with body shots but Loma was never hurt. Loma had Haney hurt multiple times last night and didn't finish him. Much credit to Haney for that.
I disagree with one of the posters. The lightweight division is one of the most entertaining in boxing right now. It's one of the few where the best will fight the best.
Tyson Fury want's to keep fighting over rated British tomato cans. No one will fight Usyk. The Charlo brothers are scared of everyone that might have a shot at beating them. Canelo is on the downslide and everyone knows Bivol has his number. Arum won't let Beterbiev fight Bivol.
Crawdad won't fight Spence and neither of them will fight Boots or Ortiz.
Innuoe is destroying everyone they put in front of him so LW is the only division where good fights good.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 1:28 pm to gumbo2176
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That's an odd stance. Why would you think that?
You provided the answers for me.
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The guy took a year off boxing
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missed out of at least 2 possible paydays
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being 35, he's not long for boxing at his weight class
Another poster provided further evidence:
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Loma being a slow starter has cost him two matches now, Teo and Haney. I know the purpose and understand but he really needs to become more aggressive before round 6
Now... I don't know the guy personally, and I give him credit for going back home to the war, but he did not take a year off to fight in the war. It was five months, and he was never in any sort of danger, according to his own manager. He did not fight on the front lines. That being said, he served. That was right and proper and I do give him credit for that.
But that has nothing to do with boxing. As a boxer, what I see is a characteristically unaggressive fighter who repeatedly drags fighters into decisions and doesn't win as convincingly as he should. Six of his last eight fights have ended in decisions. He lost two of those. You can't trust this guy to win a fight convincingly. He wins with punch volume, not power. And when the other guy punches back, you get close decisions.
I would ordinarily like him more as a fighter, but I think something is holding him back.
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I say the guys got WAY more integrity that you seem to not give him credit for.
Virtually no one in the sport of boxing has integrity. The sooner you realize that, the less frustrating boxing will be for you.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:59 pm to SpqrTiger
I don't agree with your last statement. When discussing promoters your point may have some merit but I think most fighters have integrity.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:04 pm to SpqrTiger
Seeing where Dave Moretti is being called before the Nevada Athletic Commission to explain his scoring. Particularly the 10th round.
Boxing needs more of this.
Boxing needs more of this.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:30 pm to bamarep
Shakur was there & said Loma won
Ryan Garcia was there & said Loma won
Keyshawn was there & said Loma won
Bud was there & said Loma won
Shawn Porter was there & said Loma won
Regis said Loma won
Everyone knows Loma won
Great fight overall, but Loma truly won.
#HaneyLoma
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Ryan Garcia was there & said Loma won
Keyshawn was there & said Loma won
Bud was there & said Loma won
Shawn Porter was there & said Loma won
Regis said Loma won
Everyone knows Loma won
Great fight overall, but Loma truly won.
#HaneyLoma
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:03 pm to RBTiger
I watched it today after reading this thread so any close round I gave to Haney.
But I thought Loma won and anyone who could have scored for Haney is either a relative or a Vegas judge.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:07 pm to SpqrTiger
Agree
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