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re: Watching 1985 NBA Finals on ESPN Classic... they aren't that good...
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:34 pm to CAT
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:34 pm to CAT
quote:They would easily run them out of the gym. The team game is so much more complex.
I'm not saying the Lakers whip the Heat but no way in hell, they get run out of the gym. Completely idiotic.
80's Lakers wouldn't know how to play.
And the style is so much different. More pick and roll, more driving inside and going up or dishing out, more 3's, etc.
All of this will get your defense out of whack extremely quick unless your team practices against offenses like that.
Miami would be getting wide open shots all day, and the Lakers would be lost.
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Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:35 pm to PrimeTime Money
The rules today have taken out running the ball rough the big man because you can help with a zone a lot more. You have 3 seconds to play zone. Old d you couldn't double off the weak side onto the strong side unless it was a full out double team which would leave wide open in a man if full sell out double .
So it made more sense to runic through a good big man. Today's game it doesn't, the rules are guard oriented. Which is a reason why the big man era is dead.
So it made more sense to runic through a good big man. Today's game it doesn't, the rules are guard oriented. Which is a reason why the big man era is dead.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:38 pm to lsupride87
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Go look at track and field/weightlifting records from 1985 then compare them to today.
Carl Lewis ran a 9.92 in the 100m finals. That would've placed 6th in the London Olympics, losing by .04. The idea that athletes are getting so much better is not really true. The improvement slowed considerably in the 1980s once athletes could work at their sports full time and make a comfortable living (also, make a modern athlete put up with the travel and conditions in 1960, and they get their arse kicked, because they are a bunch of pampered babies).
The gains being made in objectively quantifiable sports have slowed considerably in the past two to three decades (and are moving backwards in some sports -- Powell has held the long jump record longer the Beamon). Most great leap forwards have been technology based (like swimming and the suits and no splash pools).
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:40 pm to fightingtiger2335
I have been seeing double teams and players sagging to help from the weak side all game.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:42 pm to PrimeTime Money
the game was different back then. it's called evolution. it's nearly impossible to compare teams of one era of a sport to another era.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:42 pm to PrimeTime Money
If those teams avg more points and took far more shots then today's game I don't understand your pace argument
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:42 pm to BobBarker
quote:
t think about how bad Bird would get murdered on D by Lebron or Durant.
He seemed to kick the crap out of Jordan during that time period (actually, the Jordan-lead Bulls got crushed by the Bucks in 1985). So, by this logic, we now have answered the question of who is better, Jordan or LeBron.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
frick, basketball season is over.
Tired of these threads :/
Tired of these threads :/
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
But not zone. I guarantee that. Zone took the big man out. Is the shaq rule.
But I'm sure shaq would suck in today's game as well so who cares
But I'm sure shaq would suck in today's game as well so who cares
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
No way! Everything was better in the past!!!!one1!
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:44 pm to Baloo
So the fastest runner in 1992's Olympics would have finished 6th in the most recent Olympics? How does that help your case?
And the winner ran it in 9.63
That is way faster than 9.92
And the winner ran it in 9.63
That is way faster than 9.92
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:44 pm to Sophandros
Just thinking Barkley, bird, and Malone getting run off the court seems far fetched. Whoa us old timers
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
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So the fastest runner in 1992's Olympics would have finished 6th in the most recent Olympics? How does that help your case?
1) steroids
2) steroids
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:47 pm to Baloo
quote:HAHAHA
Carl Lewis ran a 9.92 in the 100m finals. That would've placed 6th in the London Olympics, losing by .04. The idea that athletes are getting so much better is not really true. The improvement slowed considerably in the 1980s once athletes could work at their sports full time and make a comfortable living (also, make a modern athlete put up with the travel and conditions in 1960, and they get their arse kicked, because they are a bunch of pampered babies).
Nice try. The avg time in the 100m finals in 1984 was 10.2375. In 2010, it was 9.824286. That is a world of difference. ETA: Im not saying Bird etc suck. Just pointing out how much the athlete as evolved
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 7/23/13 at 3:57 pm to Baloo
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He seemed to kick the crap out of Jordan during that time period
Bird never covered Jordan. That was Dennis Johnson. And even DJ let him go off more often. Also Jordan pre Pippen was a 100% different player than post Pippen Jordan. Let's face it, Bird came in at the perfect time were his lack of athleticism wasn't obvious. He then got out at the perfect time. The Kelly Tirpuckas and Kiki Vandeweighs were going away to be replaced by the likes of Pippen. He would have been exposed if he had to play the wing players the NBA has today.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:00 pm to quail man
quote:
1) steroids
2) steroids
You do realize how big steroids was in the 90s right?
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
Who on the heat guards Kareem?
He would drop a 50/20 split every game
He would drop a 50/20 split every game
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:03 pm to Wild Thang
quote:Kinda like Duncan dropped a 50/20?
Who on the heat guards Kareem?
He would drop a 50/20 split every game
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
I mean aren't all sports considerably more advanced now than they were 25 years ago, when you factor in year round strength/conditioning, advances in nutrition and suppliments. Also think about the advances in scouting and statistical analysis due to technology.
there are juniors at bigtime high schools right now who are getting better training than pro athletes 25 years ago.
there are juniors at bigtime high schools right now who are getting better training than pro athletes 25 years ago.
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:07 pm to lowspark12
quote:Exactly. It is ridiculous to think the 1985 team could compete. It isnt a knock on the older generation. The 1985 team would crush the 1958 team. Just like the 2040 team would crush the 2013
I mean aren't all sports considerably more advanced now than they were 25 years ago, when you factor in year round strength/conditioning, advances in nutrition and suppliments.
there are juniors at bigtime high schools right now who are getting better training than pro athletes 25 years ago.
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