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re: Was the bucs play at the end of game bush league?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:25 am to Zach
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:25 am to Zach
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About 20 years ago the Eagles were involved in an unbelievable ending. Can't remember their opponent. Offense was ahead by 5 points with 20 seconds to play. The call was to take a knee. The snap came early and the QB never got a hand on it. The defense scooped it up and ran for the game winning TD.
The Miracle at the Meadowlands, 1978.
The ball was recovered and taken in for a TD by one...
Herm Edwards
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:25 am to Dire Wolf
Schiano used that tactic in college. It's nothing new.
I'm all for it. I think gentlemans rules in a savages game don't make sense to be honest.
I used to punched WRs in the throat when they'd stalk block me and I'd chop down on their elbows too. The game is too damn violence to say "you can get someone hurt doing that." what are the gonna outlaw next? Tackling below the waist?
You can get someone hurt by simply playin the game.
I'm all for it. I think gentlemans rules in a savages game don't make sense to be honest.
I used to punched WRs in the throat when they'd stalk block me and I'd chop down on their elbows too. The game is too damn violence to say "you can get someone hurt doing that." what are the gonna outlaw next? Tackling below the waist?
You can get someone hurt by simply playin the game.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:27 am to StrongSafety
so you're saying Schiano is a racist?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:27 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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You've lost the game, there's less than 10 seconds left. Not to mention, has anyone ever gotten the ball back in that type of situation? I've never seen one and I'd be willing to bet there is less than 2 or 3 in the last 50 years, if any. That's my only thing, what's the point? You're not getting it back.
I remember the Tenn QB fumbling the snap a while back on that play and I think it cost them the game.
shite can happen.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:29 am to TIGERSandFROGS
Reminded me of Eli tripping back in 2003
Was not as blatant as Coughlin made it sound like
Was not as blatant as Coughlin made it sound like
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:31 am to STEVED00
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He looked like a bigger fool scoring a TD and giving the Bucs the ball back with a crap load of time. They should have kicked the 20 yd FG to win the game with just a few seconds remaining.
Just like the infamous Tony Romo botched snap on a 20 yard FG in Seattle?
Always take the guaranteed points.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:32 am to Kafka
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Posted by Kafka quote: About 20 years ago the Eagles were involved in an unbelievable ending. Can't remember their opponent. Offense was ahead by 5 points with 20 seconds to play. The call was to take a knee. The snap came early and the QB never got a hand on it. The defense scooped it up and ran for the game winning TD. The Miracle at the Meadowlands, 1978. The ball was recovered and taken in for a TD by one... Herm Edwards
Huge difference, they werent taking a knee, it was a fumbled hand off.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:34 am to gabe311
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Just like the infamous Tony Romo botched snap on a 20 yard FG in Seattle?
Dude, there is a much better chance that the Bucs would have scored (They wouldve have had the ball on the 12 yd line if not for the questionable incomplete call with a chance to tie) to tie the game then they wouldve botched the FG.
This post was edited on 9/17/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:38 am to rutiger
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Huge difference, they werent taking a knee, it was a fumbled hand off
I don't believe kneeldowns were permitted in the
'70s -- i.e. you had to be actually touched by a defender to be down. So to down the ball you had to hand off or do a QB sneak.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:40 am to chalmetteowl
quote:Seriously?
here's my thing... why don't teams kneel it from the shotgun?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:45 am to STEVED00
I agree. Coughlin is a total fool. What has that guy accomplished?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:47 am to OneMoreTime
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Seriously?
yes seriously
think about what the goal is on a kneeldown
if you're under center things like that happen
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:49 am to Dire Wolf
quote:As Herm Edwards would say, "You play to win the game."
Was the bucs play at the end of game bush league?
Nothing they did was illegal, they were just playing until the final whistle. Nothing wrong with that, IMO.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:01 am to chalmetteowl
Much greater chance of having a bad snap from the shotgun.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:01 am to TTsTowel
I saw a high school game a couple of years ago where the D-lineman pushed the center back into the QB before the QB got down, and it knocked the ball out. Defense recovered. I don't really have a problem with it. Especially down 1 score. There might be a 0.0001% chance of success, but it's still more than the 0% chance you have if you just sit back and let them kneel down.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:20 am to Michael J Cocks
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I could also see why the Bucs would violate the "gentlemen" agreement.
Is it even a "gentlemen's agreement"? In college all the QB has to do is simulate taking a knee. The ball is dead by rule and the play is over.
Anyone know the actual NFL rule on the play?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:21 am to Dire Wolf
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Tampa was only down by a touchdown; of course they want to force a fumble
I agree with this. If the game was out of reach then YES I would have a prob with it.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:23 am to Kafka
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Posted by Kafka quote: Huge difference, they werent taking a knee, it was a fumbled hand off I don't believe kneeldowns were permitted in the '70s -- i.e. you had to be actually touched by a defender to be down. So to down the ball you had to hand off or do a QB sneak.
Interesting, didnt know that.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:27 am to DrSteveBrule
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I agree. Coughlin is a total fool.
SO great coaches are incapable of every making a poor decision? The Bucs had a legit chance to send that game into OT bc the Giants scored when they did.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 12:09 pm to STEVED00
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