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re: Was James Harden really the MVP?

Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:03 pm to
Of course on the .00001% chance Lebron goes to Rox the bet is void. Any other major shakeups we can discuss in October or once FA ends.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:06 pm to
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And I pick who counts as injured and who doesn't since I am unbiased.


If they're on the court playing regular minutes they ain't hurt.

But if they aint gonna be right til offseason ala Steph then no they're injured.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:12 pm to
voter fatigue is real. Happens in every sport
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:13 pm to
harden is a worthy MVP. He was spectacular in the regular season.


But it makes how he crumbles in the biggest moments look even worse. Dude needs to get in better shape or something because he looks like he's either too tired to move by the end of playoff games, or he just doesn't like the moment.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:26 pm to
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looks like he's either too tired to move by the end of playoff games, or he just doesn't like the moment.


It is just mentally weak. Chris paul carried them during the playoffs when harden faded in the spotlight again. He just doesnt have what it takes mentally at that level.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59911 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 2:35 pm to
There was a handful of voters who even favoured AD over Lebron for MVP. That tells you the tally was not even as close as the 86 of 101 would indicate.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:29 pm to
James Harden is one of my least favorite players in this league, but I'm so tired of seeing people base their opinion of a regular season award on the playoffs.

Harden averaged about 30, 5.5, and 9 on the best team in basketball. Lebron was great, averaging about 27.5, 8.5 and 9, but on the team that finished 4th in the East. I'm not necessarily a huge Lebron fan, but I feel like I respect his game almost as much as anyone on the board. That being said, he saves himself more on the defensive side of the ball than he used to, and Harden was an incredibly deserving MVP.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:44 pm to
I feel like there should be a distinction between MVP and best player. I can say Harden was the season MVP.

LeBron is the best player. You can argue Harden produced more, but if you have to win a playoff series, do you want LeBron or Harden. LeBron might not produce the January/February numbers, but when he turns it on, he's obviously better.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:02 pm to
Imagine how good harden woulda looked going up against the pacers and raptors and all those bum kinda teams. Never forget that Lebron plays in the east. While harden was squaring off V DPOY Gobert.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Imagine how good harden woulda looked going up against the pacers and raptors and all those bum kinda teams. Never forget that Lebron plays in the east. While harden was squaring off V DPOY Gobert.


Rockets lost both vs Raptors this year. HardLn would've gotten his shite pushed in in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:14 pm to
Post his stats
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:38 pm to
Rockets would have beaten Toronto, Boston and Cleveland in the playoffs. They were the second best NBA team this season, and it's not particularly close.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18947 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:57 pm to
LeBron dogged it all regular season. He created a dysfunction with how he treated his teammates in favor of Dwayne Wade.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 4:59 pm to
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Rockets would have beaten Toronto, Boston and Cleveland in the playoffs. They were the second best NBA team this season, and it's not particularly close.


How are you so sure when Raps beat them in the regular season?

To let you Rockets fans explain it, the regular season results matter, unless they don't.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 5:00 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 5:18 pm to
James harden was the mvp, get over it.
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 5:29 pm to
Rockets took Golden State to 7 games and likely would have beaten them if Paul wasn't injured. Next.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59911 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 5:33 pm to
These guys wanna hold losing V GOAT against hardwn.

Nah bro, we don’t hold it against Lebron. We don’t hold it against AD. We don’t hold it against harden. They are GOAT.
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 5:43 pm to
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To let you Rockets fans explain it, the regular season results matter, unless they don't.


It doesn't matter because the MVP is a REGULAR SEASON AWARD.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66906 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

lebron have the worse d rating in the whole league past the mid point of the season

That’s not true. Ricky Rubio did

LINK

I think harden earned mvp, but that is incorrect
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59911 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:58 pm to
All star break isn’t mid point of the season. They have played 50+ games at that point Winston.
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