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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:41 am to
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:41 am to
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Do you not see a common thread here?


All are successful people who did crazy things. The same rebuttal "how could Famous Person A do Violent Act B when they have so much to lose" could be applied in each case.

Different ages, different sports, different races, different nationalities, different crimes, etc.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:41 am to
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tony isnt even second tier on that pedigree

Your tiers must go by fives?
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
8039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:41 am to
He did stop, watch the video.
Posted by socrow
Covington,GA
Member since Sep 2012
828 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:44 am to
Well after the fact that he did, I'm just saying when he hit him, if he had immediately stopped his car and perhaps got out to check on the other driver you could probably sell me that it was a huge accident, but driving off on down the track a little ways and not getting out of the car to check on him or showing any remorse, I'm not going to be sold that it was an accident
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56579 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:44 am to
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He did stop, watch the video.

I think he meant once he hit him he kept going another 20 -30 yards, but that was probably because he started gaining speed right before he hit him.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:45 am to
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All are successful people who did crazy things

All three you mentioned were domestic violence. I don't think TS and Ward were in a relationship.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:45 am to
Those cars go fast as shite he prolly couldn't just stop on a dime
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:47 am to
quote:

Do you not see a common thread here?



All blacks? NOPE!

All bipedal? NOPE!

All current athletes? NOPE?

I don't see it.......
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32893 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:48 am to
So? All of the cases show the initial rebuttal is flimsy as hell.

ETA: If we're going to use a non-domestic violence case, we can go with Marvin Harrison, and looking at the Harrison case, I have always been shocked at the amount of evidence against him.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:50 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:49 am to
Just watched the video. Holy shite. Will enter the pantheon of fricked up crash videos like the Greg Moore crash and the Tom Pryce crash. I honestly can't tell if Stewart sped up, but it seemed like Ward crept into the racing line unnecessarily. Tragic tragic situation.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:50 am to
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, just a lot of folks jumping to ridiculous conclusions about intent.


I can't vouch for the frickery based on Napoleonic code, but intent ain't required in manslaughter.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:50 am to
One thing nobody has mentioned is what if Stewart has ANYTHING in his system? Even something like depression or anxiety meds could make this fun!
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56579 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:50 am to
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Those cars go fast as shite he prolly couldn't just stop on a dime

It was under caution for over a lap and I'm sure he saw the kid come out long enough to try and avoid him. And he should have been going slow enough to react and move to a lower lane, instead he sped up and hit him head on.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:52 am
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:52 am to
what does "under caution" mean?

And no one has answered what that guy was trying to accomplish by walking in the middle of the track.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
8039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:55 am to
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I can't vouch for the frickery based on Napoleonic code, but intent ain't required in manslaughter.


Doesn't matter, it's not manslaughter either. It's a stupid, tragic accident where both are to blame for being stupid.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56579 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:55 am to
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what does "under caution" mean?

the fact that you dont know what that means probably means you dont watch many races. There have been countless amounts of people who walk on the track doing what he did for as long as nascar and other race types existed. No offense but your opinion is kind of worthless if you dont know much about the rules/etiquette of racing.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:56 am to
quote:

what does "under caution" mean?



It means there is shite on the track so watch the frick out


quote:

And no one has answered what that guy was trying to accomplish by walking in the middle of the track.




You read all 50+ pages? Lots of people have and everypne has said he is a dumbass.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:57 am to
Sorry man it just seems like something like this is bound to happen when a guy is walking in the middle of the track during a race
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:59 am to
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Sorry man it just seems like something like this is bound to happen when a guy is walking in the middle of the track during a race



Kinda like walking thru a neighborhood at night in Florida with a hoodie on.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:01 am to
You know you can't compare domestic violence to this event. Completely different thought processes. They were just bad examples.

I don't remember the Harrison shooting that well, but there was arguments and heated exchanges.

Lets assume that nothing happened before the race; TS would have no reason to be upset with Ward before or after putting him to the wall. So if your opinion is correct that he murdered him, Ward approaching TS's car would have been the action to push him over the edge to murder a driver, something that TS would have been capable of doing numerous times in his 20yrs of racing. IMO- Highly unlikely.
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