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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:09 pm to
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He was already headed in that direction before he hit him.


Where is this video that proves this? He's going straight in the only video I've seen. His care only moves any other direction after contact

And if you don't understand the physics behind it, I'll not waste your time or mine explaining it any further.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

He was already headed in that direction before he hit him.


Holy shite there is no way you can say that with absolute certainty from that camera angle for the second he was in the shot before he hits Ward.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297980 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:09 pm to
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Holy shite there is no way you can say that with absolute certainty from that camera angle for the second he was in the shot before he hits Ward.


There must be another vid this guy is watching.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87208 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:10 pm to
It's blurry, but it doesn't look like Tony's car is much higher than the 45. And it certainly doesn't look like his car is at any different angle than the 45's... This is the only frame that we have prior to him hitting Ward. It's after this that he goes toward the wall.




Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:12 pm to
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There must be another vid this guy is watching.


I'm 99 percent sure he's straight up trolling at this point. He has defied all logic and reason presented to him in favor of conjecture and presumption.

Pretty low for him to troll on a matter of this nature, tbh.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33906 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

- He is obviously moving his car toward Ward. - Ward is obviously trying to dodge while putting his hands out. - He obviously accelerated.


Amazing how you are capable of determining all of this yet the criminal investigators cannot.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
8012 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:12 pm to
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Let's assume for the sake of this thread, that each party involved can be assigned a percentage of fault for the accident. Ward 75% - Tony 25% (?). I don't think the track will catch much liability, even though there are no spotters there. I think there will be spotters at dirt tracks in the future because of this incident though.


Well, since there is actual video evidence of Ward's recklessness, and only baseless assumptions on Stewart, that seems about right.

If Ward doesn't try to play tough guy in front of the home crowd and just stays in his car, he's watching Watkins Glen today.
Posted by Buga_Scores
L.C
Member since Jul 2014
1887 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:12 pm to
This shite is cray
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19712 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:13 pm to
It is higher. Ward didn't move lower and Tony came right at him. There was space between the 45 car and Ward Jr as well.

Why is it that the 45 car sees him and comes around the corner slow (like every other car) but Tony didn't?

It's obviously they can see him and it's obvious who he was melting down at.
Posted by bnh
Earth
Member since Feb 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:14 pm to
Just stop dude. It's not funny.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38605 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:15 pm to
Yeah, there is no way I'm buying that Tony Stewart just didn't see the guy

I'm not saying he hit him on purpose or anything like that, but he had to have seen him.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19712 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:15 pm to
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Amazing how you are capable of determining all of this yet the criminal investigators cannot.



We don't know what they've determined at this time.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87208 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Why is it that the 45 car sees him and comes around the corner slow (like every other car) but Tony didn't?
Oh really? This is the other car that almost hit him, but he had to avoid. It's going faster and higher than tony.

This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297980 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Why is it that the 45 car sees him and comes around the corner slow (like every other car) but Tony didn't?


Stewart was directly behind 45, and his view was obscured. 45 dropped lower, Stewart didn't see the guy until too late. This is a common reason for accidents when a vehicle in front reacts and the trailing vehicle has less time to correct.

The first car in the video after Ward Jr. exited the car is higher than the others.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6052 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

baseless assumptions on Stewart, that seems about right.




Tony has always been a hot head, next time he gets put in the wall and gets out of the car I hope someone drills his hobbit arse
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19712 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:16 pm to
quote:


I'm not saying he hit him on purpose or anything like that, but he had to have seen him.


I don't think he was trying to hit him either. I think he was trying to scare him but got too close.

You're not allowed to say that in this thread. You're only allowed to say he is completely innocent and point out the stupidity/igonrance of the guy who died.
Posted by bnh
Earth
Member since Feb 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:16 pm to
Yep those other cars are going fast also.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68812 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Well, since there is actual video evidence of Ward's recklessness, and only baseless assumptions on Stewart, that seems about right.

If Ward doesn't try to play tough guy in front of the home crowd and just stays in his car, he's watching Watkins Glen today.



The problem with some of the people posting here is that they are dealing in absolutes. It's either all Tony or all Ward's fault. Assuming that Tony accelerated right before impact to sling dirt on this dude, I think he would catch a percentage of fault, but the dude getting out of his car and walking on the track to give TS the bird definitely gets assigned a higher percentage IMO.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:18 pm to
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You're not allowed to say that in this thread. You're only allowed to say he is completely innocent and point out the stupidity/igonrance of the guy who died.


Another troll paragraph from you. Per par.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19712 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Oh really? This is the other car that almost hit him, but he had to avoid. It's going faster and higher than tony.


I already addressed this. He just walked out front. They just saw him.

By the time he walks into the middle everybody has seen he has lost his mind.

You're just proving my point because the guy who drove high STILL didn't hit him. It isn't some freak accident. Tony probably wanted to nudge him or scare him because he came out of his car hot.

Then shite went sideways.
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