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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20873 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:44 pm to
Truth of the matter is this crap goes on at a dirt track almost every saturday night, this is just the first time somebody has gotten killed while doing it. Had it been anybody other than Tony Stewart who hit the guy it wouldn't have been major news.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91550 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:45 pm to
I don't think Stewart's position on the track will be damaging to him. The guy who got hit looked like he'd have done anything to get as close as he could to Stewart's car.

I don't know what some people are looking at but he came pretty close to being hit a couple times before Stewart got him.

I really think what happened can be easily explained away by a lawyer as a complete accident. So many things could have gone wrong in that situation, and they did.

I have no idea if Stewart tried to scare him or not, wouldn't put it past him.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:46 pm to
quote:


My problem has been with the people coming in ready to convict TS and throw him in jail because someone died... all based on this video, which if anything, implicates Ward more than anyone.


Because they want Stewart to be guilty.

Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

One driver who is a friend of Ward( I don't know this for sure just what some on this board are saying) saying TS was trying to scare him



If that's true, would that follow under voluntary or involuntary manslaughter?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:47 pm to
If everyone was forced to guess, not as a jury but just as a pick what happened, would most guess:

A. He did everything he could to avoid him and avoiding at all cost was his only intentions

B. He was trying to buzz the tower and screwed up

I say B
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18330 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:49 pm to
I think that's a very fair and level headed opinion. I have no beef with that. But some other less logical posters are already reaching for an ultimate conclusion based on very little evidence. I just don't see the point of making up ones mind so soon. There undoubtedly will be more to come of this. Some people are just in such a hurry to see things as black and white when there is right now a lot of gray.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20873 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

If everyone was forced to guess, not as a jury but just as a pick what happened, would most guess:

A. He did everything he could to avoid him and avoiding at all cost was his only intentions

B. He was trying to buzz the tower and screwed up

I say B


C. He was dealing with something in the car such as removing a tear off, adjusting breaks, checking out gauges, or a whole host of other things, and at the last second tried to avoid him when he saw him.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:49 pm to
probably B, but i don't know what that means to me in term of fault/guilt and punishment.
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Had it been anyone other than Tony Stewart it would not be major news


It would be major news, but people wouldn't assume guilt or negligence with any other driver because it's doubtful there would be a history of bad and dangerous behavior with another driver.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

C. He was dealing with something in the car such as removing a tear off, adjusting breaks, checking out gauges, or a whole host of other things, and at the last second tried to avoid him when he saw him.
That means you think A actually
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:52 pm to
Nothing in that video shows him doimg thzt yhough. You are just sticking with you want to see because if you admit that youre wrong you will feel stupid that you wasted your day arguing the wrong side.



People are acting like this dirt throw is a super common aoccurancd. Tony is awesome to think of that new trick in the split second thzt he saw the idiot jump from front of the 45 car. Even better the guy is walkig towards his car and hes walking right into tonys master plan...


Except they are in the groove where the track is slick...the dirt thats gonna be thrown would be the cushion which they werent near.

But tony prob didnt think of that when he thought of the new dirt where there is none trick
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Nothing in that video shows him doimg thzt yhough. You are just sticking with you want to see because if you admit that youre wrong you will feel stupid that you wasted your day arguing the wrong side.
No, Hitler, I am just making a guess using context clues that happens to be different then yours
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33196 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:58 pm to
I can't believe bc some of you don't like TS you actually think he would intentionally run someone over. Some of y'all are fricked in the head
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139474 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

B. He was trying to buzz the tower and screwed up


With his history of aggression towards other drivers, plus the feuding these two were doing during this race, I would say that was exactly what he was trying to do.

Probably not something they can convict him on anything though, unless there is some other evidence.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:59 pm to
I don't think he tried to run him over
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33196 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:01 pm to
Sorry I just responded to the last post in the thread, wasn't necessarily directed at you
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

"Psychopathy (/sa?'k?p??i/) (or sociopathy /'so?si??pæ?i/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior."





I love how people blanket sociopaths as "Hannibal Lector" style. Most sociopaths can't function well enough in life to obtain any sort of fame. You are talking about people that would carve a dick on to a wall in front of you, and not understand nor care why anyone would be mad at them.
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:04 pm to
This could be a record. 116 pages in less than 16 hours.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22532 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:08 pm to
Yep

He's a tPOS and is therefore gets no free pass if people jump the gun

Not sure why people can't understand this.

If this was Jeff Gordon or Someone, but this guy has been NASCAr's biggest piece of shite for a while

Something like this was bound to happen eventually. Dude is mental
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Manslaughter is a more serious crime than negligent homicide. In fact, manslaughter carries up to 40 years time. Doesn't fit this situation in my opinion.



Perhaps in the state of Louisiana, but in the state of Georgia, a second degree charge of vehicular manslaughter only carries a year in prison, plus a $15,000 fine.
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