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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:18 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:18 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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No, he's not.
Oh, when did it become legal to run someone over and kill them?
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:19 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Oh, when did it become legal to run someone over and kill them?
Pedestrians get killed every day without the driver being guilty of a crime.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:20 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
quote:Long time ago.
Oh, when did it become legal to run someone over and kill them?
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Why don't you read what the witnesses said from the report.
Who were close and live and could tell the difference of which cars are throttling up.
You're being obtuse. and most people on here are ignoring the statements from other drivers.
Everyone just wants to watch some stupid gif in silence and act like a freakin' expert.
You weren't there...you can't judge the distance, sound, what happened before.
Who were close and live and could tell the difference of which cars are throttling up.
You're being obtuse. and most people on here are ignoring the statements from other drivers.
Everyone just wants to watch some stupid gif in silence and act like a freakin' expert.
You weren't there...you can't judge the distance, sound, what happened before.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:20 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Oh, when did it become legal to run someone over and kill them?
The answer to that is based on intent. Doubt that can be proven unless video evidence shows Stewart was trying to get close to him to scare him.
Can't lose sight of the fact that the victim in this incident is also to blame for his death.
Who has more blame? I don't know.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:23 pm to Zamoro10
Wasn't that witness a good friend of the guy that got killed?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:26 pm to Zamoro10
quote:Plural? Only one guy seems to be implicating Tony.
Why don't you read what the witnesses said from the report.
quote:How do you know what they could "tell"?
Who were close and live and could tell the difference of which cars are throttling up.
quote:Pot, me kettle.
You're being obtuse.
quote:Driver.
most people on here are ignoring the statements from other drivers.
quote:Nope. We're saying there's doubt without more evidence. Others are coming to conclusions based on assumptions and off camera sounds and guesses.
Everyone just wants to watch some stupid gif in silence and act like a freakin' expert.
quote:And to a good extent, even the people there won't be reliable. Video often is if there's a more complete and extensive angle.
You weren't there...you can't judge the distance, sound, what happened before.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:28 pm to ell_13
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Everyone just wants to watch some stupid gif in silence and act like a freakin' expert.
quote:This.
Nope. We're saying there's doubt without more evidence. Others are coming to conclusions based on assumptions and off camera sounds and guesses.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:31 pm to Zamoro10
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You're being obtuse. and most people on here are ignoring the statements from other drivers.
Why Science Tells Us Not To Rely On Eyewitness Accounts
Split second, emotional accounts are nowhere near as reliable as videotaped evidence.
LINK
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Juries tend to pay close attention to eyewitness testimony and generally find it a reliable source of information. However, research into this area has found that eyewitness testimony can be affected by many psychological factors:
Anxiety / Stress
Reconstructive Memory
Weapon Focus
Leading Questions
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:31 pm to Zamoro10
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You weren't there...you can't judge the distance, sound, what happened before.
and you were?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:32 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:No. That's why he is going with a professional drivers eyewitness account who said TS knew what he was doing and try to scare the kid
and you were?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:34 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Legally, it would be hard to cast blame on Stewart unless additional video evidence comes out.
The kid was an idiot for getting out of his car into oncoming cars, but I find it hard to believe a world-class driver like Stewart could not have acted more responsibly in avoiding the kid. They were both acting like hotheaded assholes and now one of them is dead.
The kid was an idiot for getting out of his car into oncoming cars, but I find it hard to believe a world-class driver like Stewart could not have acted more responsibly in avoiding the kid. They were both acting like hotheaded assholes and now one of them is dead.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:35 pm to lsupride87
Who can also be seen as an emotional friend of the deceased who was asked to make a comment moments after the incident.
In the end, he's just another eyewitness. Him being a driver doesn't necessarily give him insight into Tony's intentions.
In the end, he's just another eyewitness. Him being a driver doesn't necessarily give him insight into Tony's intentions.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:35 pm to lsupride87
Ok so one driver who was friends with the deceased knows what Stewart was thinking?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:37 pm to lsupride87
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That's why he is going with a professional drivers eyewitness account who said TS knew what he was doing and try to scare the kid
That's complete speculation, nothing that anyone would take seriously in court. Is there any recorded statement of Stewart saying anything that would support that assertion?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:37 pm to kywildcatfanone
They both deserve the Darwin Award imo
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:39 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Look, I'm not a court of law. I am making a guess on what happened and these are the facts I have to go by:
Stewart is known as the biggest a-hole and most hotheaded driver in NASCAR
A video that doesn't show much
One driver who is a friend of Ward( I don't know this for sure just what some on this board are saying) saying TS was trying to scare him
Based on this if I had to guess, and was forced to guess one way or the other I would say TS was trying to scare him. And I don't see how others don't say the same. Not saying in a court of law, just saying as someone on a message board who would be forced to pick one way or the other
Stewart is known as the biggest a-hole and most hotheaded driver in NASCAR
A video that doesn't show much
One driver who is a friend of Ward( I don't know this for sure just what some on this board are saying) saying TS was trying to scare him
Based on this if I had to guess, and was forced to guess one way or the other I would say TS was trying to scare him. And I don't see how others don't say the same. Not saying in a court of law, just saying as someone on a message board who would be forced to pick one way or the other
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:41 pm to lsupride87
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A video that doesn't show much
Precisely.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
Fair enough. And I have no problem with that. We can disagree and argue, but at least you realize you're making a guess, maybe even an educated one.
My problem has been with the people coming in ready to convict TS and throw him in jail because someone died... all based on this video, which if anything, implicates Ward more than anyone.
My problem has been with the people coming in ready to convict TS and throw him in jail because someone died... all based on this video, which if anything, implicates Ward more than anyone.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 1:42 pm to PortCityTiger24
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He has always been one of those douchebags who seems like he doesn't have a conscience.
Psychopathy and sociopathy are a mother!
"Psychopathy (/sa?'k?p??i/) (or sociopathy /'so?si??pæ?i/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior."
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