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re: VA Tech LB charged with murder for killing man he thought was a woman

Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Acquitted on all charges today.


Good
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:26 pm to
Apparently it turned into a self-defense argument.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:35 pm to
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He heard "bubbling and gurgling" as he left the apartment, but didn't call the police.


That was his mistake.

Should have called the police and said the dude attacked him.

Would have been plausible enough for reasonable doubt.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84872 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:44 pm to
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That was his mistake.


He was ultimately acquitted nonetheless.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20111 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:37 am to
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Etute returned to the apartment, and testified that he received oral sex and a $50 gift from Smith.

Lol!
I guess $50, is $50.
ESPN
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68462 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 1:15 pm to
how did he not know it was a dude the first time around?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95169 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 1:33 pm to
Because this was the guy….



There is no amount of makeup there can make that dude look like a woman

Also seems crazy he was acquitted. He got oral sex, then went back to “verify the guys gender” weeks later. When he went back to apartment, he beat the man to death because he felt threatened and that the man had a gun. The man had no gun in his entire apartment, and only a knife found under the mattress

To enter another unarmed persons apartment, beat them to death, and then get acquitted is pretty tough to do
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Being tricked into engaging in sexual activity with a man is unbelievably violating. I see it almost like a soft form of being raped. He has to live with that experience for the rest of his life.

I don’t know what his punishment should be for losing his mind for a minute and beating the guy senseless, but I have to say, it’s understandable.


I don't know if my opinion would hold legal water but I would consider it manslaughter. The dead man did sexually dupe (probably legally sexual assault or rape) the killer.

Doesn't seem possible to imagine this was premeditated. Certainly sounds like it was done in a moment of irrational anger.

It would be hard to prove he intended to kill but his violence directly caused the outcome. That seems like my conception of what manslaughter is.


Edited to include quote below from the prior poster. If that poster has the facts correct that seems like a premeditated crime (murder) and probably not manslaughter

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then went back to “verify the guys gender” weeks later. When he went back to apartment, he beat the man to death because he felt threatened and that the man had a gun. The man had no gun in his entire apartment, and only a knife found under the mattress

To enter another unarmed persons apartment, beat them to death, and then get acquitted is pretty tough to do
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28052 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:33 pm to
player has IQ of an infant, CFB saved his life, and he kills some gay guy, because he's an idiot and can't differentiate between a guy and a girl.

transformers are easy to figure out. Only dumb illiterate jackasses can't figure it out.



PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSt when it has an adams apple the size of a pear, it's not a Lady.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:35 pm to
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No, he made a choice to get head from a person he didn't know. It's not rape in the slightest



Pretend it's a lesbian who wanted oral sex from a woman. And the woman turns out to be a man pretending to be a woman.

I strongly suspect the guy would be convicted of sexual assault or rape.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 4:41 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95427 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:16 pm to
Yeah, they made jokes about a similar situation in the 90s.

A guy went on a Jenny Jones show about secret admirers and found out his was a guy. When the guy approached him later, he killed him.

IIRC, Norm MacDonald made jokes about his cunning plan to avoid gay sex by killing someone.
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