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re: US Open might as well be another tour event

Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

So strokes are "equal" from course to course now?


280 has been the threshold for the US Open for decades.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27435 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:01 pm to
You are making the case the Erin Hills was a poor choice.

Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42694 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

I think cutting the fescue back was a major mistake.


They really didn't cut back on that much of the fescue.

Also, at OP saying I know nothing about golf but calling the US Open venue in 2020 Wingfoot.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

You are making the case the Erin Hills was a poor choice.


That 8 people were below 280 in soft conditions?

Just like the traditional US Open setup of Congressional?
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Golfer



Maybe, but I don't lie about scores of the past

Thieves and liars are the worse. Congrats on only proving you're a liar so far.

Throwing out false numbers about scores at last years US Open to try and lie about a stupid point that was going nowhere to begin with.

Proving you don't want to uphold the traditions of our toughest tournament. Not understanding the standards only shows you just don't get it man. fricking sad
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32496 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:04 pm to
Yep you're an idiot
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

Throwing out false numbers about scores at last years US Open to try and lie about a stupid point that was going nowhere to begin with.


I said Koepka was 1 stroke a day better at Erin Hills than DJ at Oakmont. Is that not true?
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted by 1965Tiger
Member since Mar 2017
537 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:09 pm to
Show me where in my post where I referred to last years Open at Oakmont.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27435 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

That 8 people were below 280 in soft conditions?

Just like the traditional US Open setup of Congressional?


Again, a 280 is equal between courses? Really?

Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27435 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

I said Koepka was 1 stroke a day better at Erin Hills than DJ at Oakmont. Is that not true?


or in other words for my argument to hold one must suspend all disbelief and accept that all golf courses are exactly the same.
Posted by 1965Tiger
Member since Mar 2017
537 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:20 pm to
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Show me where in my post where I referred to last years Open at Oakmont.


Rather than answer the question, he logged off. I'm not surprised.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27435 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:28 pm to
He is being pretty aggressive and rude about this but he does have a point about this year's US Open.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:29 pm to
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or in other words for my argument to hold one must suspend all disbelief and accept that all golf courses are exactly the same.


I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to communicate here.

The long-standing "goal" of the US Open from the players and the USGA is to set the course up for a 280 score to be competitive. Essentially Even on the typical Par 70 "traditional" Open setup that the OP wants.

8 players bested that in soft conditions. So I'm not going to melt down over it.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by 1965Tiger
Member since Mar 2017
537 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:29 pm to
And that is?
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18533 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:30 pm to
The first time they hold the US Open on a par 72 in 25 years and the scores relative to par are lower, as you would expect, and some people are losing thier shite.

They could have easily turned 1 and 14 into hellacious par 4's and made the simpletons happy. I'm glad they didn't. It's creating a false sense of difficulty that for some reason people feel like the US open needs to have.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139875 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:33 pm to
Isn't it Pebble they change from 72 to 71 every time they hold a US Open there? The Crosby/ATT in Feb will be 72 but the Open will be 71.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18533 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:35 pm to
Yea, they change #2 to a par 4 for the US Open.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:36 pm to
Yes. #2 is a Par 4 for the US Open at Pebble
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139875 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:38 pm to
I thought so, so the USGA artificially inflated scores just based off this.

I may not have stated it right, but it goes towards hopefully debunking the argument some are trying to make against Erin Hills.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:39 pm
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18533 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:39 pm to
The last time they played it as a Par 72 was 1992 and the players lit the course up the first two rounds so the USGA made the greens ridiculously fast for the weekend and everyone was miserable.

#2 gave up too many birdies and eagles, so they switched it to a par 4 from then on.
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