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re: ULM hires a new interim athletic director
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:10 pm to Pedro
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:10 pm to Pedro
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Yeah, I do think ULM is underrated on academics. But damn, If my memory is worth a shite, I thought ULM was competitive in most sports back in the 80's? Maybe I'm thing Tech, but I thought ULM had some teams across the sports that played well. I ain't talking champions, but you know mid range national compete.
no they were. Like i said athletics got deemphasized at a time when they were hyper emphasized nationwide. When youre a havenot in the ncaa athletics world you cant afford periods like that if you want to remain competitive. We're just now starting to get caught up to where similar sized universities were 10+ years ago.
They were decent in the 80's. They won the NCAA I-AA national football championship and had decent men's and women's basketball teams. I was there in the late 70s and early 80s. What was allowed to happen by administration then was atrocious.
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 2:35 pm to LaLadyinTx
Amen to that
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:04 pm to LaLadyinTx
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They won the NCAA I-AA national football championship
That was in 1987. NLU, and let me make that clear, NLU had some legit football talent roaming around campus then. Monroe people actually went to school there and didn't leave for LSU, Tech, or Ole Miss. I guess LSU not really being much of a SEC powerhouse program helped. Athletics were a focus, not an afterthought. I know this might be a shock, but people really went to football games. I guess because NLU won. That is what puts people in the stands and in the school. Winning. Greek life was legit. It was a cool campus. I mean seeing that school in the Fall with the Bayou backdrop, I mean it had cool scenery. It was within 30 minutes in almost any direction of good duck and deer hunting plus fishing.
Then the school decides to jump up to 1A. I guess to follow Tech and to pay for other sports. NLU gets it's teeth knocked in playing teams that it can't remotely hang with on a consistent basis. Starts to suck in football since everybody is hurt from playing the big boys. Questionable coaching hires. Questionable AD hires. Even more questionable leadership at the top. Starts losing in pretty much all sports, except water skiing. Athletics is an afterthought. School loses focus on attracting local talent, both in academics and athletics. Finally changes name to ULM, leaving lots of alumni wondering WTF? And then lets ULL just have the UL brand.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:33 pm to MWP
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And then lets ULL just have the UL brand.
I never understood why ULM didn’t just start calling themselves “Louisiana” too.
What is ULL going to do about it?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:52 pm to MWP
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It was a cool campus. I mean seeing that school in the Fall with the Bayou backdrop,
I was there in the early 80's. Cypress by way of Monroe. NLU, La Tech, USL, Southern Miss...they were pretty much equal schools then in every way. It was a fun place. We lived in Shreveport in 1987 and went to most of the home games that year and stayed with friends. The student section was packed and cheering. Yes, Greek life was fun!
The Bayou was gorgeous in the fall! You find that a lot of people who went to school there in the 70s and 80s truly love that school. For sure, all the alums from that time still think WTF about the name change. It's truly impossible to imagine what leadership was thinking...or maybe they just didn't care that much (cough, Swearingen, cough) and sold us down the river (bayou). I wonder what Dr. Vines thought of it all?!?! It truly thrived and grew while he was there.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:54 am to MWP
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Then the school decides to jump up to 1A.
I was there when they made the move. They ran these local commercials with coaches of the schools they were going to play. I can still see Lavell Edwards and Terry Donahue saying ‘Welcome to the big time NLU.
We would go to the cafeterias or the Wigwam the week after these games and it looked like a hospital dining area with all these players in crutches and casts. The school really sacrificed those dudes for big paydays. Really sucked the life out of the program.
I don’t know Seth but I’m rooting for him. N.L.U. ooh ooh ooh
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 5:55 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:13 am to TulaneFan
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I never understood why ULM didn’t just start calling themselves “Louisiana” too.
Not this shite again.
ULM tried and failed during the Charlie Weatherbie era. They actually tried using a wordmark with Louisiana on a spear on their helmets one season.
It didn't stick.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:17 am to AstroCajun
nobody in monroe really cared. it was annoying when yall started it at first but its become something to rib yall with more than anything. It was a bit disappointing when admin caved and let yall run with the name but it is what it is. It seems the only people hung up on it still are the ones without better things to worry about.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 10:41 am to Pedro
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I mean its a combination of things. I pin alot of it on President Bruno being empathetic to athletics while focusing on building up the academic side of the university. He did a good job on that front but it caused us to fall way behind in a time when there were huge investments made in athletics. Now we're even further behind then we already were trying to play catchup.
Those of us with ties to Cajuns athletics, especially from the 80s to early 2000s, know about that all too well. Ray Authement spent 2 decades plus seemingly trying to actively bankrupt our athletic program by restricting fundraising abilities.
I hope Seth does well and doesn’t hit too many internal roadblocks. Good to see a college track guy who loves his program get a shot!
Posted on 8/31/22 at 1:49 pm to Pedro
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nobody in monroe really cared
I never really understood this whole concept that having a school in your backyard was not worthy of supporting locally, but honestly, when LSU started winning in football, supporting them became the cool thing to do. I use football as the benchmark since athletics is the front porch to the house at any college. If your front porch looks like crap, nobody will want to come visit. It didn't help matters that NLU and then ULM went into a losing abyss in football that it still can't seem to get out of. I am not knocking that one bit either with Monroe people supporting LSU. LSU is the flagship school and I get that. However, NLU was like that ugly kid at the dance that never gets asked to dance except when they are the only option or ie....when you fail out at LSU. Then Tech started going after Ouachita Parish kids and the nails started to go in the coffin.
There was one shining moment in 2012 when the stars aligned in Monroe. It was when they beat a #3 Arkansas, took Auburn to the wire, and by the grace of God made a bowl game. It was a Cinderella season and from what I heard, was a windfall at the school for attendance numbers the following semester and year. People actually like to support winners. Who knew? You would think that the admin at ULM would rally and support the football program but sadly, it was right back to the gutter. Maybe now, the school will gets it shite together under Bowden but I sadly think, the first winning season he pulls off, he is gone.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:03 pm to MWP
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NLU
Still look on eBay from time to time for football memorabilia from that era
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:20 pm to Pedro
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It seems the only people hung up on it still are the ones without better things to worry about.
I think the people hung up on it are those of us who were at school in the 70s or 80s. Even though the name change isn't the reason the sports programs went to shite, the timing of the name change coincided with going to D1 and losing. We weren't there to see what really caused it and that makes it popular to bash. There's even plenty groups of folks that went to NLU before it was ULM. We miss the good old days of Stan Humphries and beating up on Tech and it feels like that went hand in hand with the name change.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:35 pm to Pedro
First thing he needs to do is hire a coach from Ouachita parish or the surrounding parishes…
I’ve stated this before here… NLU/ULM problems arise from the 90’s when they absolutely refused to recruit Ouachita parish… not having a inside man locked on the parish was plain stupidity.. West Monroe, Ouachita , Neville, Carroll, Wossman, Richwood(pre 88- post 00), OCS, St. Freds, Sterlington, West Ouachita plus every parish in NELA…even if you don’t pull the best, second best or third best players from these schools in the 90’s you still have a decent program… no one thought to recruit local players to raise the profile locally for fan support… I grew up in the Booker T area walking distance to the campus… played high school ball at Carroll not one time do I remember NLU hosting a outreach program to draw interest from local athletes… hopefully the new interim AD realizes this also
Also let me add… if you from Monroe … YES we will always pissed of about the name and mascot change
I’ve stated this before here… NLU/ULM problems arise from the 90’s when they absolutely refused to recruit Ouachita parish… not having a inside man locked on the parish was plain stupidity.. West Monroe, Ouachita , Neville, Carroll, Wossman, Richwood(pre 88- post 00), OCS, St. Freds, Sterlington, West Ouachita plus every parish in NELA…even if you don’t pull the best, second best or third best players from these schools in the 90’s you still have a decent program… no one thought to recruit local players to raise the profile locally for fan support… I grew up in the Booker T area walking distance to the campus… played high school ball at Carroll not one time do I remember NLU hosting a outreach program to draw interest from local athletes… hopefully the new interim AD realizes this also
Also let me add… if you from Monroe … YES we will always pissed of about the name and mascot change
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:05 pm to lepdagod
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Also let me add… if you from Monroe … YES we will always pissed off about the name and mascot change
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:41 pm to LaLadyinTx
I didnt mean the ULM change. The ULL change is what i was talking about
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:54 pm to lepdagod
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I’ve stated this before here… NLU/ULM problems arise from the 90’s when they absolutely refused to recruit Ouachita parish… not having a inside man locked on the parish was plain stupidity
It's because ULM is backed into the win now corner so they are forced to hustle Juco guys that are for lack of a better description, instant coffee. They might get the odd local kid but it has never been a priority because it takes time to coach up recruits. ULM doesn't really have that luxury. I am with you since it is almost common sense that pulling local talent would help with putting warm bodies in the stands. I am not sure that Coach Bowden does this. It seems like he is more in tune with going this route too and filling in the gaps with the transfer portal so nothing is really changing.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:08 pm to MWP
Changing from NLU was more impactful in a negative light then going all in on the ULM brand
You ask around every old alumni was pissed about the NLU switch. Basically took their school away from then then did it again with the Indians. Losing was the final piece too that
We have One of the dopest logos in college football now that wouldn't happen if we didn't just try to go all in on ULM
ULL will never be the "university of Louisiana" in any official capacity so I don't know why we ever tried it.
You ask around every old alumni was pissed about the NLU switch. Basically took their school away from then then did it again with the Indians. Losing was the final piece too that
We have One of the dopest logos in college football now that wouldn't happen if we didn't just try to go all in on ULM
ULL will never be the "university of Louisiana" in any official capacity so I don't know why we ever tried it.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:48 pm to LaLadyinTx
quote:I graduated in 1983, so I missed being there in person for Humphries. I did see Tag Rome, a Ruston kid, catching the winning TD at Tech his senior year. John Holman was the QB when I was there. He's in the ULM HOF. John Holman NLU HOF
Stan Humphries and beating up on Tech
quote:They ran an exciting offense during the eras of Coach Crow and Coach Collins. Both recruited some great transfers, including QB's named Humphries and Brister. The games were fun to go to even if they lost. You almost had to stand for the duration of every offensive series, because when the QB threw the ball up, everyone stood to see if it was going to be a big play. That was the Golden Era of NLU Football.
Becoming a starter late in his rookie season, Holman went on to establish 22 ULM passing and total offense records by the time he concluded his career in 1982. He also set the all-time Louisiana collegiate record for pass completions in a state known for great quarterbacks. He completed 593 of 1,201 passes for 7,827 yards and 51 touchdowns. His yardage total ranked 7th on the NCAA's all-time collegiate list when he concluded his career.
I went to all of their home games, and a few on the road, during the three years I was there. I was still more of an LSU fan because I grew up an LSU fan. Even as an NLU student, LSU losses were tougher to take than the NLU ones. Most of my fraternity brothers were LSU fans first too. A few of us used to tailgate together at LSU games in the years after we graduated.
I was happy when NLU won, and was proud when they won the 1 AA championship after I moved to Dallas. I was working in sports media, and a lot of the guys I worked with were North Texas grads. That team had to play UNT in the regular season (won 24-23) and two weeks later in the first round of the playoffs (won 30-9).
I've only been to one game since I graduated, but was living in Dallas for most of that time.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 10:24 pm to chinese58
Chinese…we literally may know each other. I’m the same age as Annalisa Crow. I was Greek. My freshman year was 79-80. I remember watching Tag Rome play. Bubby Brister’s girlfriend lived downstairs from me. If I don’t know you, I’m sure we know the same people. Hubby and I lived in Shreveport and went back to most of the home games that championship year.
I completely understand about LSU. Was always a fan as my dad went there and my uncle was a sorta well known coach in the 40s. Pretty well known around Monroe as well.
I completely understand about LSU. Was always a fan as my dad went there and my uncle was a sorta well known coach in the 40s. Pretty well known around Monroe as well.
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