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re: UFC 313: Pereira vs Ankalaev
Posted on 3/9/25 at 1:13 pm to Breesus
Posted on 3/9/25 at 1:13 pm to Breesus
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. It was a very hesitant and defensive fight.
On the part of AP, yea. But surely not the challenger. It’s obvious that AP was affected and made to be more defensive BECAUSE of his opponent. I’m not sure why this is so hard for people to admit. I like him. Wanted him to win. But he was outclassed and was neutralized.
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It was blue balls based on expectations and the decision just ended with a blah feeling.
I’ll ask again, I’m sure you won’t answer. But what sort of fight/ending would you have been happy with?
Ank put on an absolute clinic on how to stop a guy like AP. Just because you didn’t understand it, doesn’t mean it was a bad fight.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 1:15 pm
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:12 pm to Big Fat Guy
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Pereira had seen the opportunity to use his death sentence left hook, I'm sure he would have taken it. Ankalaev must have kept up an incredible defense the whole fight, giving Pereira no clear openings.
He couldn't use it as a counter because His opponent was faster and he wouldn't jab and create openings for combos, so he just went down quietly. didn't really understand it.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:01 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I was looking around to see if there was an AI scoring of the title fight, to compare to the judges, but didn't see one. Lot of divided opinions on this fight.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:26 am to POTUS2024
I asked Grok and it scored it 48-47 for AP
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 5:27 am
Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:21 am to Epic Cajun
I don’t see how anyone could say poatan won that fight.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:32 am to diat150
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don’t see how anyone could say poatan won that fight.
It’s a ton of his fans that just dont want to admit it.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:46 am to Big Fat Guy
For AP, the jab was open the entire fight, when he wasn't up against the cage. You can make a real mess of a fighter if you use the jab properly. Broken noses, cuts, getting in their head. Then they make a mistake. Just train better. It only gets harder from here on out.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 9:12 am to diat150
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I don’t see how anyone could say poatan won that fight.
I didn't think he did either. Also, Grok basically just went off of commentary and stats that were posted on a few different mma websites and the ufc website, it's not like it has the data of the entire fight.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:36 am to migui8618
quote:Exactly. He hardly used it until the 5th. Just baffling. Maybe he was hoping to get a leg kick TKO.
For AP, the jab was open the entire fight, when he wasn't up against the cage. You can make a real mess of a fighter if you use the jab properly. Broken noses, cuts, getting in their head. Then they make a mistake. Just train better. It only gets harder from here on out.
That could be the biggest adjustment in a rematch, Pereira working behind the jab from the start.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:54 am to Big Fat Guy
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Exactly. He hardly used it until the 5th. Just baffling. Maybe he was hoping to get a leg kick TKO.
Didn’t he land something like 13 kicks to that front leg in round 1? It seemed like he just went away from that.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:54 am to subotic
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Ankalaev won 49-46 if I was judging.
You would be a terrible judge....
This fight could have gone 48-47 either way and in reality the correct thing to do would have been a draw even though the UFC hates doing it.
At the same time giving AP a loss will light the biggest fire under him and should improve the quality for the next fight.
I don't have any issues with how the fight was scored other than the fact that the challenger didn't necessarily do enough to "take" the belt from the champion.
Ankalaev outfought AP but did not "beat" AP. There is a slight difference when taking belts from people and that is why people are upset.
I don't see AP going the Izzy/ Usman route and should be way more aggressive for the rematch.
People are really upset that they may not get the AP vs Aspinall/ Jones fight now.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:00 am to Dantheman504
You have basically every fighter in MMA giving that fight to Ankalaev. Yet some keyboard warriors fan boying over Poatan want to give him the win 
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:09 am to UnluckyTiger
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Yet some keyboard warriors fan boying over Poatan want to give him the win
I don't disagree with him losing.
But I also don't agree with fighters "winning" by holding on the fence and "not losing".
Its hard to get excited about fighters that win titles by trying not to lose instead of fighting to win.
Ankalaev took advantage of the fight and AP continued to let him. Like I said above I believe this was called right because the Champ should do more. But Ankalaev shouldn't get praised for time management > fighting. The actual fight itself was very close, Ankalaev mainly won because of the control of the fight.
That is not a good thing for the UFC as a whole and people have seen it plenty with Izzy and other fighters.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:20 am to Dantheman504
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Its hard to get excited about fighters that win titles by trying not to lose instead of fighting to win.
So wtf do you call what AP did lol
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But I also don't agree with fighters "winning" by holding on the fence and "not losing".
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Ankalaev outfought AP but did not "beat" AP.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:24 am to TackySweater
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Its hard to get excited about fighters that win titles by trying not to lose instead of fighting to win.
So wtf do you call what AP did lol
Fight timid? Which is why I am ok with him losing the belt.
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Ankalaev outfought AP but did not "beat" AP
I'm sorry maybe the word "outfought" was too big of a word for your brain to process. Ankalaeav "out strategized" AP but he didn't knock him out, submit him, or even have much more significant strikes.
Is this where you think that arguing with someone who overall agrees with you makes you sound less of a retard?
There is a difference between out strategizing a fighter and beating the shite out of them. That is important context when you are taking belts and crowning champions. We would not be having this conversation if Ankalaev knocked him out or continued to piece him up instead of holding onto him for the last 2 rounds. Its really not difficult to understand.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:27 am to Dantheman504
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Ankalaev mainly won because of the control of the fight.
While this is likely true, he also had the more damaging strikes, IMO. The biggest moment of the fight was the end of the second round.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:30 am to Epic Cajun
I agree, there was also the next round where AP may have been credited with a take down at the end of the round and would have had ground control on Ankalaev if it wasn't for the bell.
Again, I am ok with the result but neither really deserve "praise" for that type of fight. Obviously neither fighter wanted to make a mistake knowing who they were fighting against but you get less credit overall when you are more timid especially for a championship fight.
I'm not giving Ankalaev credit for AP defending 11 takedowns and Ankalaev holding him so he doesn't get hit. You can give Ankalaev credit for controlling the fight and walking AP down.
Again, I am ok with the result but neither really deserve "praise" for that type of fight. Obviously neither fighter wanted to make a mistake knowing who they were fighting against but you get less credit overall when you are more timid especially for a championship fight.
I'm not giving Ankalaev credit for AP defending 11 takedowns and Ankalaev holding him so he doesn't get hit. You can give Ankalaev credit for controlling the fight and walking AP down.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:39 am to Dantheman504
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There is a difference between out strategizing a fighter and beating the shite out of them
So the only way a challenger can win a belt is to beat the shite out of someone? Ok lol
Let’s set a new rule where any sport championship has to have a blowout in order to determine a winner.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:40 am to Dantheman504
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Obviously neither fighter wanted to make a mistake knowing who they were fighting against but you get less credit overall when you are more timid especially for a championship fight.
This is why I much prefer watching fights in Lighweight and below, they are usually less timid.
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