re: UFC 284: Makhachev vs. Volkanovski

Or look for reversals, sweeps, etc when either playing close or half guard, bring mounted, being in side control etc

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Islam just hugged him for a couple rounds without even advancing a finger

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Yep, and when he was on the ground with Volk, Volk kept tapping him in his face/head. Volk still created offense while being held down.

Control time is a real aspect but so is damage delivered. Tough fight to score but certainly in no world was that 49-46

But does the damage from strikes outweigh position if your strikes don’t result in consistent reversals or advances of position once you’re being mounted, back control, takedown, etc

I would say no

I said 49-46 was wrong... but winning 3 rounds is still more than 2 and there wasn't a 10-8 for Volk. I have a feeling even in pride the fight still would have gone to Islam.

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Just found saw the end of the Rogan fight companion and Joe was crowning Volk the champ after the 5th round. They couldn't believe he lost on the cards

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most people with an above room temperature IQ know that Volk won that fight.

hugging and holding on to your opponent and laying and praying for the clock to run out isn't a respectable way to fight.

that style of fighting is absolutely and 100%, pure BITCH MADE. you're doing everything in your power to avoid fighting like a man when you do that pussy shite.

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Your bias towards striking is showing

Watch kickboxing if you don’t like mma

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I have a feeling even in pride the fight still would have gone to Islam.

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Disagree. Pride scored on a prioritized point system with effort to finish the fight and damage being the top two scoring priorities. Volk would have likely won the first two scoring criteria giving him a pretty big edge regardless of what happened in the remaining categories. Standup control/ground control were scored together as the third category, so Islam would have scored here based on ground control. And takedown/ takedown defense was scored together after that. Islam would have won here too. The last two scoring criteria, in order, were aggressiveness and then weight difference (not applicable in this fight)

So 2-2 scoring in pride with Volk likely taking the top two prioritized scoring categories going into the 5th ( aggressiveness) category. Aggressiveness was likely Volk or maybe even, but I don’t see Islam winning this. He could have taken this but wasn’t aggressive at all anytime he had dominant ground position.

Volk wins pride scoring, imo

Super close fight, regardless. I’m not upset at the decision, but 49-46 was stupid. Takedowns get scored way too highly, imo. I would make one scoring change if I could: if you get a takedown, great. But if you do nothing with it (no position gain or no damage) and your opponent makes it back to his feet, then they should get a point for that defense. Basically cancel each other out to remove empty takedowns.

I think it’s the fact that Islam was a big favorite and was expected to dominate Volk. Islam fell short of that expectation, and it’s why people have the opinions they have now. It’s like one team is a 13 pt favorite and they ended up winning by 2.

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I feel like IN MY OPINION.... Islam did what he had to do to win a UFC fight

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That’s great. I have no problem with that. I believe Islam won based on a round by round scoring too, fwiw. But not one word of my post was about UFC scoring until my last paragraph on how I would change scoring takedowns, so not sure why you got all defensive.

You made a statement about pride scoring that I disagreed with and posted why I disagreed with it. I agree 100% with you on UFC scoring but that wasn’t what I commented on.