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re: Tulane On-Campus Football Stadium
Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:04 pm to johnnydrama
Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:04 pm to johnnydrama
a 30-35 K stadium on campus would do wonders for the fanbase and the program would maybe be average in 5-7 years, which would be a huge improvement
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 11:07 pm
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:50 pm to L S Usetheforce
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READ THE frickING ARTICLE.
I did. Apparently either you didn't or you lack the ability to read and comprehend properly. Nothing in that article, including the quotes that you just cited, referenced any doubt about the fate of the program in 2008, which is what you're attempting to argue. The football program was obviously threatened by Katrina; the entire university was.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:31 am to TulaneTigerFan
That article was written right after yall got your arse kick by ARMY 41-23 in OCT OF 2008.
Hence why the writer said you HAD 2 commits, and Cowen was wondering if yall could survive.
I live 2 blocks from Tulane.....When I worked out at the Reilly this was a constant fear after the 08 football season whether yall want to admit it or not.
Hence why the writer said you HAD 2 commits, and Cowen was wondering if yall could survive.
I live 2 blocks from Tulane.....When I worked out at the Reilly this was a constant fear after the 08 football season whether yall want to admit it or not.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:10 am to johnnydrama
Why? Does Tulane have a team or something?
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:51 am to L S Usetheforce
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Cowen was wondering if yall could survive
Dudes a joke.
IMO, there is no reason why we shouldnt be able to compete as a Vandy, SMU, TCU caliber type school. Hes more worried about juicing his butt and getting the school up in the rankings..
Yeah $60k a year for a top 50 school?
Wheres the bang for the buck?
Doesnt he realize good athletics is only a GREAT thing for the school?
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:56 am to TulaneTigerFan
quote:give it a rest. you are wrong.
TulaneTigerFan
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:56 am to StrongSafety
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Doesnt he realize good athletics is only a GREAT thing for the school?
Well, to an extent. It shouldn't be done by stocking the roster with felons and illiterates. Look at Miami as an example...excellent academic school but most people associate it with the Thug U teams of the 1980s.
The academic rankings are tough because graduation rates are a factor in the equation. A lot of 18 year olds lack the maturity required to live in New Orleans with all its temptations, and they party themselves out of school. Meanwhile the diploma mills in the Ivy League get credit for a 99% graduation rate (which should be a negative, not a positive, because it proves they coddle their students and have no accountability).
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:16 am to L S Usetheforce
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I live 2 blocks from Tulane.....When I worked out at the Reilly this was a constant fear after the 08 football season whether yall want to admit it or not.
I was on campus in 08 mongoloid. There was no fear of losing the football team, and the article you posted doesn't support that point at all.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:18 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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give it a rest. you are wrong.
There may have been a legitimate threat of losing the team in 03 and immediately following Hurricane Katrina, but there wasn't "within 2 years" or in 08.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:19 am to Bestbank Tiger
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The academic rankings are tough because graduation rates are a factor in the equation.
Grad rates are actually the single metric with the heaviest weight. The six year grad rates are killing Tulane in those rankings right now as they're heavily impacted by Katrina transfers.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:20 am to johnnydrama
Considering the move to the dome crippled the program, it would only be good for Tulane to do.
I would think a big issue is getting the $. If LSU announces a 80 million expansion project to TS tomorrow, there would not be much resentment about where the dough came from, nor would anyone care about those who opposed.
Convincing big wigs at Tulane to sink big $ into a football program that generates no money at present or even promised it would in the future is a huge mountain to climb; especially when their main concerns are competing with other schools academically.
I really hope they get it done. But to 90% fund it before groundbreaking will be very hard.
I would think a big issue is getting the $. If LSU announces a 80 million expansion project to TS tomorrow, there would not be much resentment about where the dough came from, nor would anyone care about those who opposed.
Convincing big wigs at Tulane to sink big $ into a football program that generates no money at present or even promised it would in the future is a huge mountain to climb; especially when their main concerns are competing with other schools academically.
I really hope they get it done. But to 90% fund it before groundbreaking will be very hard.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:28 am to StrongSafety
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IMO, there is no reason why we shouldnt be able to compete as a Vandy, SMU, TCU caliber type school. Hes more worried about juicing his butt and getting the school up in the rankings..
I agree. Tulane needs a coach who will bring in good recruits, and change the mentality of the program. Similar to what Harbaugh did at Stanford. There is no reason that Tulane shouldn't be able to take good recruits with good academics from louisiana, arkansas, mississippi, alabama and the southeast. Sell the school and academic benefits to recruits who may be more academically inclined.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:00 pm to Mariner
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I really hope they get it done. But to 90% fund it before groundbreaking will be very hard.
i do applaud them for being financially responsible, even if it isn't my money they're spending
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:55 pm to chalmetteowl
Tulane would absolutely dominate in FCS level athletics.
That's the level they need to compete in. At least for awhile.
They could win championships there, and remember, in FCS-style playoffs, the lower-seeded team travels to play at the venue of the higher-seeded team, up until the championship game, which is played at a neutral site.
A few years of success at the FCS level, along with the increased support that winning would bring, and they could contemplate a move back to FBS.
That's the level they need to compete in. At least for awhile.
They could win championships there, and remember, in FCS-style playoffs, the lower-seeded team travels to play at the venue of the higher-seeded team, up until the championship game, which is played at a neutral site.
A few years of success at the FCS level, along with the increased support that winning would bring, and they could contemplate a move back to FBS.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 2:30 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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quote:TulaneTigerFangive it a rest. you are wrong.
No, he's not. There was no real threat of losing the program in '08.
Cowen may have been wondering if they could survive, but at no point in '08 was dropping the program even close to happening.
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A few years of success at the FCS level, along with the increased support that winning would bring, and they could contemplate a move back to FBS.
That would never happen and it's not even a good idea. If they go the FCS level I'd say it's pretty certain they arent coming back.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/17/11 at 4:10 pm to johnnydrama
Would it be a stadium for ants?
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 7/17/11 at 5:01 pm to La Place Mike
Posted on 7/17/11 at 7:38 pm to johnnydrama
DILLIGAF
Posted on 7/17/11 at 7:53 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Grad rates are actually the single metric with the heaviest weight. The six year grad rates are killing Tulane in those rankings right now as they're heavily impacted by Katrina transfers.
They really shouldn't be. 99% is too high, 80% is too low, but picking the optimal rate is too subjective and to be accurate it would have to vary from school to school.
Better metrics would be availability of merit based scholarships, professor-student ratio (more access to profs=better education), and alumni giving rate (good measure of how good a school the alumni think it is). Tulane gets killed on the latter but unfortunately it really is a good thing to watch.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 7:54 pm to marchballer
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I agree. Tulane needs a coach who will bring in good recruits, and change the mentality of the program. Similar to what Harbaugh did at Stanford. There is no reason that Tulane shouldn't be able to take good recruits with good academics from louisiana, arkansas, mississippi, alabama and the southeast. Sell the school and academic benefits to recruits who may be more academically inclined.
for one thing Tulane isn't really in the same stratosphere as Stanford in the prestige or academic clout department. Also Stanford is able to offer prime academics and the opportunity to compete in the big time of college athletics in a BCS conference. I'd say Stanford is pretty much one of a kind in that regard with Vandy, Duke, and Northwestern being in a very select group that can offer similar opportunities.
What TCU has become, and what SMU is currently doing should be what Tulane looks to as a model more than Stanford IMO.
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