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re: Tua sweepstakes just got real: Redskins starting Colt McCoy vs Patriots
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:39 pm to ShoeBang
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:39 pm to ShoeBang
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Gruden knows he is fired this year no matter what. This is probably a little "frick you" to Snyder.
Either that or he's trying to make sure he gets fired.
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:40 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I don't want Tua this year, I want Lawrence the next year. I know he has struggled some this year, but I feel he fits the mold of being an NFL passer better than anyone else in college by far.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
More athletic, yea. Stronger arm, push. He labors to throw downfield when compared to nfl guys
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:49 pm to Lester Earl
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More athletic, yea. Stronger arm, push. He labors to throw downfield when compared to nfl guys
While Tua doesn't have elite arm strength by any means, it is still better than McCoy's. Colt has really poor arm strength. Honestly, I think he'd be a pretty dang good QB if he was even average in that area.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Stronger arm, push. He labors to throw downfield when compared to nfl guys
Well that’s just wrong lol. He doesn’t have elite arm strength like Rodgers or Stafford but definitely doesn’t “labor to throw downfield”. He’s got middle of the road NFL arm strength combined with elite accuracy and anticipation.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:10 pm to SD Tider
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accuracy
With guys running open as Jeudy Riggs and Waddle Andrew Hatch would be accurate
Herbert is the best option for a QB this year. I mean look at what he’s doing with terrible WR in his career
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:18 pm to sms151t
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With guys running open as Jeudy Riggs and Waddle Andrew Hatch would be accurate Herbert is the best option for a QB this year.
Open receivers don’t make you more accurate, just easier to complete a pass. Tua hits them in stride, perfect placement nearly every time. That’s something you can’t teach.
He’ll be the #1 QB off the board because he’s a better prospect than Herbert, and it’s not particularly close.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:19 pm to sicboy
What a poorly run organization. Why the frick did they play Haskins last week.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:19 pm to VermilionTiger
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Colt is better than Haskins at this point
That is just about the most racist shite I’ve read all day. Nice worKKK
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:19 pm to sms151t
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With guys running open as Jeudy Riggs and Waddle Andrew Hatch would be accurate
Such a lazy argument. Kid has made some incredible throws at Alabama. It's still important, and difficult, to hit an (really fast) open receiver in stride in a manner that doesn't necessitate him to slow down. This is a big reason you see so much YAC out of that group. Go watch the throw to Waddle against Tennessee or the throw to Irv Smith against LSU that he dropped in over Grant Delpit. to downplay his accuracy as a passer at this point in his career is just silly and willfully ignorant. Yea, those guys get open, but that has a lot to do with when he releases the football- ie timing and accuracy. He hits guys in stride 30 yards downfield with regularity on 9 routes, releasing the ball when the receiver hasn't even eaten up all the yardage on the corner yet.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:19 pm to sicboy
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Dolphins are PLEADING with Washington to not frick this up for them.
Dolphins play Washington next Sunday, its goingto be epic
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:22 pm to ShoeBang
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Gruden knows he is fired this year no matter what. This is probably a little "frick you" to Snyder. Won't be surprised if he is fired as soon as they are mathematically eliminated which I assume already happened.
Or Gruden may be just trying to get fired at this point. He's not going to resign and forego whatever money he is contractually owed, but he probably just wants to move on and start looking for his next gig. It could be a no lose situation. Start McCoy, which pisses off the owner and gets him run. Great! Or, start McCoy and win some games which makes the team/fans happy.
If this doesn't work, look for Gruden to start dragging one of the old Super Bowl trophies around the parking lot...
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:25 pm to SD Tider
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He’ll be the #1 QB off the board because he’s a better prospect than Herbert, and it’s not particularly close
You’re being a homer with this statement
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:26 pm to SD Tider
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He’ll be the #1 QB off the board because he’s a better prospect than Herbert, and it’s not particularly close.
I'd argue it's pretty damn close, with Herbert arguably having a higher upside.
Herbert has really become very accurate this season and has elite arm strength to go along with a perfect pro-style body type and durability.
Tua has had some injuries and is pretty short with average arm strength.
Obviously Tua is very accurate and very athletic, but this is close.
ETA:
Depending on system, there are plenty of teams that would pick Herbert over Tua I bet.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:37 pm to SD Tider
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but definitely doesn’t “labor to throw downfield”
He definitely does. Put on the tape. He has very good mechanics & gets the most out of his body, but he doesn’t even spin it as good as say Deshaun Watson, who had arm strength questions coming out.
Tua within 15 yards is pretty damn good. But he has some limits. I could be totally off but I am baffled at how he is in 1.1 consideration
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:45 pm to sms151t
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You’re being a homer with this statement
Not really, this is the general consensus of most of the NFL scouts/execs. Not saying Herbert’s a bad QB at all, don’t get me wrong. In fact I’m not even saying Tua will have a better NFL career, you never know how that will go. I’m just saying that at this moment Tua is the clear choice based on all available data. He’ll be a top 5 pick, and a good chance at being #1 overall. Herbert will be a mid 1st round pick, possibly even slipping to late 1st round
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:47 pm to Lester Earl
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He definitely does.
Go watch some film of his deep balls on YouTube. It’s impressive when you actually watch his ability to get the ball downfield in a hurry.
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I could be totally off
Yep
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:50 pm to SD Tider
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This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:56 pm to SD Tider
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Go watch some film of his deep balls on YouTube. It’s impressive when you actually watch his ability to get the ball downfield in a hurry.
I’ve watched plenty
Throwing it 25 yards to a streaking wide open WR and letting him run under it isn’t what I’m talking about
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:03 pm to VermilionTiger
Just fire Gruden now
Even screwing up Haskins now
At this point, let him get his reps since he was drafted so high
Even screwing up Haskins now
At this point, let him get his reps since he was drafted so high
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