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re: Tressel Alleged to have forwarded e-mails to Pryor's Mentor

Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:35 am to
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:35 am to
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Christ most major programs start the year with some players suspended for off the field shite during the off season.


suspended internally, not by the NCAA. minor NCAA violations are secondary. selling your goods for money isn't minor, it's usually an auto-suspension. like i said, AJ Green got a third of the year suspended for selling a jersey. that seems like a lot to me.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:36 am to
of course this whole argument is pretty irrelevant. the point is that Tressel never reported the violations (whether you want to call them minor or not), seemingly so they could continue to play without being suspended. then he misled the NCAA about his reason for not reporting it. i think we can all agree that's a pretty big deal.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34804 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:37 am to
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i think we can all agree that's a pretty big deal.


fact
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:41 am to
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So if a player fails a drug test for weed thats a major violation?


Not an NCAA
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:41 am to
I want a shirt that says, "Tre$$el BCC'd me!"
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:42 am to
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minor NCAA violations are secondary
minor violations warrant suspensions most of the time as well.

Tom Izzo received one for a secondary violation. Also, Jacob Pullen at Kansas State received a 3-game suspension for a secondary violation.
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AJ Green got a third of the year suspended for selling a jersey. that seems like a lot to me.
and yet it was a secondary violation as well. LINK
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Georgia has self-reported 14 secondary violations, including five in football, that occurred during the last six months of last year. The most notable violation involved A.J. Green selling his Independence Bowl jersey
This post was edited on 3/25/11 at 11:51 am
Posted by LesMilesMorePryor
Member since Sep 2010
1125 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:46 am to
Dr. Drunkenstien..
This post was edited on 3/25/11 at 11:47 am
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 11:54 am to
It is obvious that Tressel values the Mentor/Protege relationship

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37145 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:07 pm to
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Seems that the concern about confidentiality was not so great after all. He did not tell tOSU, but shared with his star's mentor.



Here's where I am on this story now: I think he's screwed and better than even odds he's going to end up losing his tOSU job over this... but in spite of me just knowing better I find the guy likable somehow

Its complete BS. Intellectually I know that what he did was lousy and that his involvement with stuff at YSU and with tOSU RE: Clarrett looks even worse with time and this perspective

I just look at the guy and don't want to think he's dirty.
He doesn't run around invoking God and he doesn't have a slicked back hair grease-ball package like Calipari

But yeah, now I think he's dirty
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37145 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:09 pm to
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Go read Ohio State's scout site. I know all team boards tend to be overrun with blind homers but Ohio State fans take their homerism a step forward. They're over there patting themselves on the back for being different and on top of things unlike all the corrupt SEC programs because they...get this....."self reported" the violations. They literally think that because they self reported this in January 2011 that all is well. That little matter of their head coach lying to the NCAA TWICE and knowingly playing ineligible players?



If they fire Tressell within the month they have an argument IMO. Then they will have removed the party responsible for lying to the NCAA and not reporting the problems

If they don't fire him then IMO they have no argument
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96879 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:11 pm to
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I want a shirt that says, "Tre$$el BCC'd me!"


nice
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36805 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:21 pm to
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dont want to think he's dirty


It's the glasses, sweater vest, good speaker, great vocabulary, and he has that father figure act going pretty good.

Easy to like him personally but yeah......he's dirty as hell.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54108 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:27 pm to
That booster probably gave Pryor the same hookup Newton got from Auburn.

I'd be more concerned with that relationship than worrying about Tressel if I'm Ohio St.
You better believe the NCAA will start asking questions.
Posted by LesMilesMorePryor
Member since Sep 2010
1125 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:28 pm to
Stop assuming. THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
This post was edited on 3/25/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:29 pm to
The seemingly best comparison to what Tressel did is when Dez Bryant was ruled ineligible for the entire year for lying to NCAA investigators when asked if he met with Deion Sanders or met with any agents that represented Sanders. Meeting with Sanders wasn't a violation but lying was the violation.

Even if we bought Tressel's argument that he was concerned about confidentiality, then he still should have made an addendum to the NCAA paperwork that certified that he had reported all possible violations before last season began. Now that it seems clear that he didn't care about confidentiality, his behavior was exceedingly inappropriate.

As he's the head coach and apparently knowingly withheld this information, tOSU should have all wins vacated for last season, Tressel should be fined his entire salary, and he shouldn't be allowed to coach for a year (at least). He's had numerous allegations that he is knowingly obtuse going back to this tenure at Youngstown State. The NCAA should send a strong message that cheating isn't allowed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466927 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:30 pm to
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All programs do not have coaches who knowingly play ineligible players. All programs do not have head coaches who unilaterally decide to cover-up major violations. All programs do not have head coaches who intentionally mislead the NCAA.


All programs do not cover up multiple DUIs for player

All programs do not enforce drug policies

All programs do not use female students as sexual lures for recruits on visits

i can play this same semantic game with any program, brah
Posted by LesMilesMorePryor
Member since Sep 2010
1125 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:31 pm to
I'm glad you feel that way. Now stop posting. Nothing that serious will happen, and it shouldnt. You don't even seem like you know all the facts
This post was edited on 3/25/11 at 12:31 pm
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12265 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:32 pm to
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Nothing that serious won't happen


I agree retard
This post was edited on 3/25/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:35 pm to
I have nothing to add to this thread, other than I like the guy who calls longhorns- The Texas Douche.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 3/25/11 at 12:45 pm to
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Discount tattoos for some personal items isn't a major violation brah. If it was, they'd be suspended the whole season, which means they'd all be in the draft.


Do you really believe that all they got for that high priced memorabilia was some tattoos? And please don't go all Auburn on me and say "prove it." If it had been an SEC team they would have assumed the worst. But tOSU is always handked with kid gloves.

...And if they had been suspended for the season, it would have ended up a 1 game suspension (Sugar Bowl).
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