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re: tOSU president says Boise State/TCU dont belong in title game

Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:05 pm to
one of the biggest victories for both Boise and TCU this year is Oregon State

Oregon State is 5-5

Miami and Michigan are 7-4, Illinois is 6-5

If TCU or Boise had played any of those teams they would be pointing to them as one of their strongest tests of the year
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:06 pm to
A pot meet kettle moment.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

If TCU or Boise had played any of those teams they would be pointing to them as one of their strongest tests of the year
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Step it up, travel and go play some of the big boys in other conferences. Then your argument will have merit. Until then you're just blowing smoke up peoples asses.


Just to add to this point...

And don't demand top dollar in return. You're a mid-major. You deserve mid-major dollars.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:19 pm to
Boise and TCU need to both play 4 BCS conference schools each during the regular season before they can even start to bitch about being left out.

They can easily do it. They just don't want to have to earn their media coverage and media dollars.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Who does TCU have scheduled?

Step it up, travel and go play some of the big boys in other conferences. Then your argument will have merit. Until then you're just blowing smoke up peoples asses.


TCU games against the "big boy BCS opponents":
2010 Baylor 45-10 (BU held to a season low)
neut Org St. 30-21
Texas scheduled but backed out
Texas tech scheduled but backed out
2009 @Virginia 30-14
@Clemson 14-10
2008 Stanford 31-14
@Oklahoma 10-35 loss OK in NC this year
2007 Baylor 27-0
@Texas 13-34 loss
@Stanford 38-36
2006 @Baylor 17-7
Ttech 12-3
2005 @Oklahoma 17-10
bowl Iowa St 27-24

So 11/13 in BCS games since joining the MWC with losses to a national championship OK, and a 10-3 Texas both away games. BTW only 4/13 were home games.



future games include LSU, ARK, OK, Baylor, TTech, and Virginia.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 12:45 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:43 pm to
Half of your list proves my point more than it proves yours. Baylor, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Virginia listed as the "big boys of BCS conferences"?

quote:

future games include LSU, ARK, OK


Those games will certainly help your credibility.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 12:48 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:46 pm to
For the record. I admire the rise of and consistency in the TCU football program over the last decade or so. It's admirable. However, to get to the next level they need to play bigger games in the regular season. Until then, there are strong arguments for 1 loss teams that play in more demanding conferences to get bids over them.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24997 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:48 pm to
For once fans of the SEC and Big X are in full agreement
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37067 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:51 pm to
You know who should be roid raging furious?

Stanford

They are one of the best teams in the country and their only loss might be to the best team in the country... they are having their best year maybe ever

... and they probably don't even make the BCS Bowls/Rose Bowl when Oregon and Auburn make the NC and the Rose ends up taking Boise or TCU
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6830 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

The call should be recorded and the posted when tOSU cowardly refuses.


Hardly, have you seen who Ohio State schedules the past several years and the next several years to come. I would love to see Boise State play against Ohio State, and I am sure so would everyone else.

Last year we played New Mexico State and I ran into several of their fans at the game. I asked them how we would do against Boise State since they were in the same conference. They said having played us and them that it would not be close, not because of talent or coaching, but because of depth, and size.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 12:58 pm to
They are the only ones willing to schedule us up to that point. We beat them all.

Of course these are the same "week in week out" opponents that BCS conference leaders complain about playing.





Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Of course these are the same "week in week out" opponents that BCS conference leaders complain about playing.


No one you listed, even when combined, in the past two years would even come close to what Arkansas has faced each of the last two, seperately.

Last year - Auburn, USCe, @ bama, @ florida, georgia, tamu, @ lsu, @ ole miss

this year - @ auburn, @ georgia, @ USCe, bama, lsu, tamu, @ miss st

I don't give a shite how bad you beat up on Baylor. Play those games week in and week out and THEN you can complain about getting left out.

Otherwise? Well frick it. Arkansas should go independent. We can play directional schools every year for most of our games and throw in one mediocre team from a BCS conference. NATIONAL CHAMPS! We deserve it! We went undefeated!
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 1:52 pm to
I have no problems stating that the majority of the BCS conferences are stronger than the MWC, especially the SEC. Furthermore, I applaud the addition of tamu to ark schedule.


The problem is the ascertation that any conference can play 7 OOC SEC opponents during a season. The only possible way for this to happen is for every team to join the SEC or go independent. There is no room in this argument for a team in a FBS conference other than one of the BCS conferences to have that many BCS opponents PERIOD.



What would be refreshing is for all of the teams with a loss beating their chests and claiming that undefeated TCU and BSU would certainly have the same or worse fate in thier powerhouse conference to cash that check on the field. The most tht TCU can do is 4 OOC BCS opponents and I would love to see that. I would love to see them play a SEC, a Big 12, a Pac 10, and a Big 10 school every year. Unfortunately, those teams have not wanted to schedule (and many in this thread have alluded to why) teams like TCU and BSU.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37067 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

The most tht TCU can do is 4 OOC BCS opponents and I would love to see that. I would love to see them play a SEC, a Big 12, a Pac 10, and a Big 10 school every year. Unfortunately, those teams have not wanted to schedule (and many in this thread have alluded to why) teams like TCU and BSU.



Boise and TCU have figured out they can game the system instead of playing as tough of a schedule as they could

Line up 2-3 decent opponents a year and try to run the table against your awful competitors... then yell and scream you did all you could and deserve a big BCS bowl when other schools would make more money for the for profit bowl in question

Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 2:24 pm to
FWIW 7 of TCU's awful oppontents have a .500 record or better only 6 of tOSU do.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24997 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 2:29 pm to
I can't wait for Wisky to play either TCU/Boise in the Rose
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

FWIW 7 of TCU's awful oppontents have a .500 record or better only 6 of tOSU do.


Who have those opponents played?

Who have tOSU's opponents played?
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15630 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

FWIW 7 of TCU's awful oppontents have a .500 record or better only 6 of tOSU do.


Its worth nothing (IWN)

And 7 NOT 6 of OSU's opponents have above .500 records.

Ohio
Miami
Illinois
Wisconsin
Penn State
Iowa
Michigan
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 2:55 pm to
6 of the opponents taht tOSU has acutally faced have .500 or better. They have yet to face Mich
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