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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:20 am to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:20 am to ReauxlTide222
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You say he made a conscious effort to take steps in order to gain control of his body. I'
Nah no conscious effort, just natural body movement when you are falling forward due to momentum
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:22 am to DelU249
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do you think that was a catch?
Yes.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:22 am to shel311
quote:I don't even think he or the refs are blind or anything. We're all arguing our opinion. The ref's call was his opinion. By rule opinions have no place in review, making his argument wrong.
You can't laugh at the guy saying "anyone arguing it is jsut wrong" when you did the exact same thing on the other end.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:22 am to shel311
quote:That's the best part of this epic melt by Cowboys fans. Last week they got an even more controversial call in their favor and some said even if they hadn't gotten the call they still would have scored. This week they are calling bloody murder and that this call would have won the game when even if they had scored on the following couple of plays Aaron Rodgers would have had basically 4 minutes to orchestrate a TD drive.
You can't laugh at the guy saying "anyone arguing it is jsut wrong" when you did the exact same thing on the other end.
Melt on, 'Boys.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:25 am to goldenbadger08
quote:I'm not even sure who is a Cowboys fan or if they posted in this thread.
That's the best part of this epic melt by Cowboys fans. Last week they got an even more controversial call in their favor and some said even if they hadn't gotten the call they still would have scored. This week they are calling bloody murder and that this call would have won the game when even if they had scored on the following couple of plays Aaron Rodgers would have had basically 4 minutes to orchestrate a TD drive.
Melt on, 'Boys.
Not sure why you felt you just had to get that take in there, but ok.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:25 am to ReauxlTide222
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He leaps to catch the ball, takes 3 steps during the fall, keeps his knees off the ground(because he's trying to score), and extends the all forward before he is down. How they can 100% know that he didn't do this on purpose is lost on me. It's bullshite. Anybody arguing it is just wrong.
You "accidentally" left out the part where the defender dislodged the ball from his hands, this takes away one of his "steps". This turns it into a situation where a receiver is making a catch on the sidelines gets both feet in and then is unable to control the catch until the end. Seems like most "experts" are all agreeing that the ruling was correct based off the letter of the law. A lot of these people want the rule changed but for now this is the rule. Sometimes the football gods let things even out. Cowboys should be happy they made it this far.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:26 am to goldenbadger08
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Aaron Rodgers would have had basically 4 minutes to orchestrate a TD drive.
I mean the Packers drove into field goal range pretty much on accident while trying to run the clock out.
If anything this controversial call just spared the Cowboys the pain of a last-second field goal defeat. At least now they have something rally against.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:27 am to NawlinsTiger9
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You guys keep using these words like "obvious" and "clear" - it really wasn't.
You're right...it all depends under what lens you view the replay. I've watched it and thought he was stumbling, I've thought he kept his feet under control. You see what you want to see.
It has to be one of the five:
-He kept his feet and actively stretched for the goalline
-He stumbled and actively stretched for the goalline
-He kept his feet and that's the way he naturally fell without stretching
-He stumbled and that's the way he naturally fell without stretching
-You are one of the seven people on the planet who think the ball didn't hit the ground at any point
My guess is he stumbled and stretched for the goalline...I could see any of top four being what actually happened.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:30 am to brgfather129
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-You are one of the seven people on the planet who think the ball didn't hit the ground at any point
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:31 am to Salmon
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and his momentum is carrying him, he is taking those "steps" to try and gain control of his body
quote:Do it matter if it's conscious or not? Are all football moves conscious? When running running for a 90 yard TD is your 11th stride a conscious one or is it just a natural body movement when running from someone chasing you?
Nah no conscious effort, just natural body movement when you are falling forward due to momentum
Why would his body subconsciously take 2 steps?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:32 am to ReauxlTide222
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Are all football moves conscious?
I thought that was the argument everyone was making...
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Why would his body subconsciously take 2 steps?
your standing still, someone comes up to and shoves you in the back at full speed
what happens?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:33 am to ReauxlTide222
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Do it matter if it's conscious or not? Are all football moves conscious? When running running for a 90 yard TD is your 11th stride a conscious one or is it just a natural body movement when running from someone chasing you?
Why would his body subconsciously take 2 steps?
The point is that he was falling the entire time, and the rule says "control the ball to the ground." Not sure the "football move" clause is relevant when a player is falling.
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"If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete."
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:35 am to DelU249
From what I saw, it seemed like a catch.
Apparently by the NFL's wording it was not a catch.
Apparently by the NFL's wording it was not a catch.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:36 am to Tigerstudent08
quote:This isn't the main argument. The refs don't actually know what happened, by rule it's a catch. I'm just trying to explain why I think he made a football move. It doesn't matter what I or anybody else thinks though. By rule it was a catch.
You "accidentally" left out the part where the defender dislodged the ball from his hands, this takes away one of his "steps". This turns it into a situation where a receiver is making a catch on the sidelines gets both feet in and then is unable to control the catch until the end. Seems like most "experts" are all agreeing that the ruling was correct based off the letter of the law. A lot of these people want the rule changed but for now this is the rule. Sometimes the football gods let things even out. Cowboys should be happy they made it this far.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:37 am to TxTiger82
Not if you catch it then go with it. That rule no longer applies
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:38 am to ReauxlTide222
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I'm just trying to explain why I think he made a football move.
Which is irrelevant given that he was falling the entire time.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:38 am to TxTiger82
quote:Wtc is the football move thing for?! I'm gonna be ticked if I've been arguing a rule that doesn't even apply
The point is that he was falling the entire time, and the rule says "control the ball to the ground." Not sure the "football move" clause is relevant when a player is falling.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:38 am to tigerskin
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Not if you catch it then go with it.
But that's not what happened. Whatever "moves" Dez Bryant made were made in the process of falling. Hence, that clause applies and the football move clause is irrelevant.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:39 am to ReauxlTide222
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Wtc is the football move thing for?! I'm gonna be ticked if I've been arguing a rule that doesn't even apply
I think you have been. This is the point that Cowherd was making (see the other thread).
Nobody thought you could be falling AND make a football move (personally, I think this is what happened, but that's neither here nor there).
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:40 am to TxTiger82
Not really. The idea that Dez Bryant would catch a ball and then not reach for the goalline is funny itself.
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