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Every sport creates revenue.

I wonder what changed from the Northwestern ruling a few years back -- NIL? Or did we just get a more liberal board making the ruling? I always thought athletes were gonna frick around and find out with something like this when the NIL money started sloshing around.

Nlrb was for employee status for northwestern.

Nothing changed.

The reason they pushed for northwestern is because it is a private school.

Some state laws prevent state employees from unionizing. I'm guessing California may not have those laws

Thanks for the correction.

Courts stopped northwestern and nlrb back then.

They may be fishing for more liberal judges and appeals circuits.

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Every college sports fan should support this statement.

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Completely disagree.

There was a time that statement was true. But that hasn't been the case for a while.

The SEC recently signed a 3 BILLION dollar media rights (TV) deal.

The Big Ten signed a 7 BILLION dollar deal

Networks aren't paying that as a donation to academia. They are paying it because college sports (most notably football and men's basketball) are big entertainment BUSINESS.

Major universities routinely charge $1,000 plus for season ticket...per seat. Home games at places like LSU, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, etc, etc will generate well over $10 million in revenue...for each home football game. People aren't spending that money to attend football games because they want to donate to their local academic institution. They are doing it because attending a college football game is something they enjoy as entertainment.

College football and basketball are big entertainment businesses masquerading as scholastic extra-curriculars. To attempt to argue otherwise is foolish. And just like in the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc., the players are primary attraction. Thus, in the current climate of BILLON dollar revenues it was inevitable that the players would eventually be held to be categorized as "employees"

If you don't like it, that's fine. I get it. I don't particularly love what college sports have become recently. But it's wholly logical to hold the players are "employees". The next step is going to be unionization and collective bargaining, and along with it, I believe, the elimination from the top level of competition schools that just can't compete financially (Sunbelt schools, CUSA, etc, etc.)

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students at the University of Southern California who play football and basketball should be treated as employees, and not students

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How can this apply to only football and basketball but not any other sports? Anywhere else, your status as an employee isn't determined by how much or how little revenue your department generates. And if they apply it to USC, then why wouldn't it apply to ever college athletics department. Going to kill college athletics as we know it. All that'll be left is a few dozen football and basketball schools that'll essentially be nothing more than a minor league for the NFL and NBA.

The argument 9 years ago against Northwestern was that their players can unionize. But the entire team would be ineligible for ncaa sports because they aren't meeting amateur athletic requirements.

The problem is that the ncaa got their nuts cut off and is in survival mode. Even the conferences are looking at ways of ditching them.

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This is the thing that will destroy college athletics, and the people hurt the most are the athletes in non-revenue sports.

This is a pure "cutting off your nose to spite your face" scenario.

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This has been my stance. All of the changes to college sports benefit the top 1 percent of athletes who were already getting paid, probably under the table, and who likely have professional futures.

The other athletes don't get shite, and will likely end up losing their sports all together.

This is a completely losing proposition for every college athlete except a handful.

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Here’s my question

Are only the biggest revenue institutions to treat athletes as employees, or is everyone in the FBS? FCS? D2? D3? to do so?

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Now let's apply this question to HS sports, club sports, middle school sports, etc. If you buy a ticket at the gate in order to see the game is it not paying to see entertainment? Shouldn't the participants be compensated then?