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re: Top 3 Coaches in College Football

Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by King
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:34 pm to
That's what it is. Your butthurt over the SECrants opinion over Les
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Nick Saban
Bob Stoops
Les Miles
i'll take this one,although Miles has a far better bowl record than stoops....
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73283 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:35 pm to
Mack Brown is another coach that shouldn't have his accomplishments overlooked, despite the 2010 record. Maybe he is just a recruiter, but not every coach has won at Texas. The Longhorns weren't in the best of shape when he arrived in 1998.
Posted by BayouBengalBoi
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Petrino is 2-1 vs Miles using this logic.

Rebuttal?


Even a garbage can gets a steak every now and then. It remains to be seen If petrino will build on that success and become a great coach. Like Les Miles, he will have to get a higer-profile coaching position and win a NC.
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 5:37 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73283 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Beilema and Patterson can suck it. Wisconsin hasn't won shite and Tcu plays a soft schedule.


Beilema has maintained Wisconsin at arguably a higher level than Barry Alvarez ever had UW at. I realize Alvarez essentially built the Badger program, but Beilema has been very successful at UW. I would love to see what he could do with a better talent base to draw from.

Garry Patterson has more than maintained what Dennis Franchione built in Fort Worth. Small school or not, Patterson is a winner. I don't think gambling on a winner in small conference is any different than gambling on a guy like Les Miles that had an average coaching record, prior to coming to Baton Rouge.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Mack Brown is another coach that shouldn't have his accomplishments overlooked, despite the 2010 record. Maybe he is just a recruiter, but not every coach has won at Texas. The Longhorns weren't in the best of shape when he arrived in 1998.



I don't think he's awful, but I just can't find a single reason to put him above Stoops.
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Petrino is 2-1 vs Miles using this logic. Rebuttal?


The biggest difference is Petrino has ZERO titles, sec or national.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6499 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:43 pm to
Saban, Stoops, Petrino. Any of them would get the job done at any viable school.
Posted by BayouBengalBoi
Member since Jan 2011
608 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:43 pm to
I have the Score like this:

Les Miles (1a)
Nick Saban (1b)
Bob Stoops (3)

All of that is gonna change this year you can bet. Les (according to most of you rantards) over-achieved with the talent he had. And Alabama was supposed to repeat as NC according to the Rant this time last year. And of course they are gonna win it this year also (with a much weaker team).

So under-achieving or over-achieving? The last time I checked one of those gives more credit to coaching ability, some call it luck. Whatever you like, its been happening for several years now down in BR.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:45 pm to
I'm sorry. Call me a biased homer, but how can you even put Saban and anyone else as even right now. The guy is the only coach to win two poll titles at two different schools since 1936. Nevermind his recruiting prowess. Mind you, I'm not knocking on Les Miles. You have to respect what he's maintained at LSU. There's a lot to be said for that.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
35713 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:47 pm to
Saban
Mack Brown(.855 win % at home, .882 win % away since 2000)
Gary Patterson

Then, in no order, you have Stoops, Miles, and Beamer...
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73283 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

And Alabama was supposed to repeat as NC according to the Rant this time last year. And of course they are gonna win it this year also (with a much weaker team).


First, any fanbase is going to drink the kool-aid when you open in the polls that high. I called for 12-2 all last summer, but in the back of my mind wanted to media to be right about repeating. Second, I'm not sure how returning 17 starters is a "weaker" team. Of all opposing fans, those from LSU should know that a great Nick Saban team starts and ends with a smothering defense, veteran offensive line, and strong running game.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35713 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

Call me a biased homer


No, he is the biased homer in this situation.

It's proven by the various threads he's started here, nothing but blind homerism...
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:49 pm to
Without even thinking twice, my top three is:

Saban
Stoops
Patterson
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55941 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

(with a much weaker team).


O rly?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20996 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Mack Brown


Exactly how is Brown better than Stoops?
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:51 pm to
Saban
Patterson
Stoops

June Jones, Petersen, and Petrino are all pretty close.
Briles is pretty damn good too, Baylor? gotta give him props
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 5:52 pm
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:51 pm to
Saban
Stoops
June Jones
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:54 pm to
total collection of work:
JoePa
Saban
Beamer
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 7/10/11 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Petrino is 2-1 vs Miles using this logic. Rebuttal?


The biggest difference is Petrino has ZERO titles, sec or national. Including a coach without a title is plain stupid.
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