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Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:23 pm to
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You and I have differed on where this organization stood since post ASB '25, I would guess


I definitely did at the ASB in 2025. They were 16 games over .500 and 6 games up in the division. You can take a victory lap on their collapse again, but no team in baseball history has ever triggered a mid season rebuild in that position. A 2012-2013 scorched earth approach would have been the only way forward because of the (justified) backlash.

I would have had zero issue doing so last winter after the way 2025 ended, or at any point since. It was obvious they were not going to.

At minimum they should trade Pena, Paredes, Brown. I don’t think they’d trade Yordan and it would hurt me if they did, but I’d get it. They can’t trade Altuve or Correa unless either player approves it and neither would return positive value in a trade.

I would be stunned if they do this. I think they will trade Pena, the return will almost certainly not be as productive as what they’ve gotten for Tucker, and they’ll jigsaw some lineup together that finishes around .500
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
5105 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:55 pm to
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Bring back Luhnow and rebuild


One can only dream.

Still remember that big hit piece from the Athletic years back that had quotes from other MLB execs on the Astros organization. They described it as an organization run not as a baseball club but a “cold hearted corporation”.

Ironically other clubs probably ended up emulating Luhnow’s framework while the Astros abandoned it.

Now we are back to some screwed up version of a good ole boys club from yesteryear that’s run by the owner and his cronies.

This organization needs to be blown up and rebuilt again.

This post was edited on 10/7/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
109477 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:59 pm to
Fastest path to make it back to a WS is

1. CRANE relinquish all influence on baseball decisions and hire a legit GM who has autonmy. No more senior advisor BS for bagwell.

2. trade everyone of value and restock the farm with players set to hit MLB between 2028-2030.

The end.
Posted by Uncle Mike23
Member since May 2024
4148 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:51 pm to
Dragon putting in the fricking work. Well done, sir.
Posted by DalenSA
2024 DAT RotY
Member since Jan 2023
11891 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:56 pm to
Only took 3 asks and 2 memes created. I had a whole bunch of funny ones lined up
Posted by DalenSA
2024 DAT RotY
Member since Jan 2023
11891 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 10:35 pm to
NY Post said don’t expect anything on Espada and GM until after the World Series. Goddammit
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
109477 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 7:32 am to
Indications from some in the industry is that one of the current AGMs will be hired.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63960 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 8:41 am to
lol
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25529 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:36 am to
Don’t disagree with anything you said

Not a victory lap

I take no pleasure in Astros losses, not even when they result in financial gain

My fandom is deep rooted. To a fault
Posted by Uncle Mike23
Member since May 2024
4148 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 8:55 pm to
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My fandom is deep rooted. To a fault


I question your fandom, as well as all others, as there were no birthday wishes for Nick Allen amongst this band of merry men.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25529 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:58 pm to
Nick Allen did less for this organization than James Mouton. LOL

I know you’re not being serious, but I met him recently scouting my nephew, and as diehard an Astros fan as I have been, his name did not jump out at me

Took me a minute to remember him. And yes, he did more than Nick Allen. LMAO
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
109477 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 3:04 pm to
Mouton was no Chuck Jackson
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
2223 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 8:25 pm to
Mouton was no Tuffy Rhodes
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
10375 posts
Posted on 10/10/26 at 8:49 am to
Mouton was no Jim Pankovits.
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
2223 posts
Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:37 am to
Mouton was no Ernie Camacho.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
109477 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 6:47 pm to
Saw the club hired Nate Rasmussen to be a part of the amateur scouting dept. He is a former college pitcher, pitching coach and creator of rhe NWBB site which provides in depth advanced stats and analysis and player profiling for 57 teams across multiple college levels and summer ball leagues.

I love this hire and hope its a signal that we are coming to our senses a bit.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25529 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:37 am to
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provides in depth advanced stats and analysis and player profiling for 57 teams across multiple college levels and summer ball leagues.



So, outside of Crane and Bagwell's legacy picks, we should have a couple with a chance to make a difference
Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:05 am to
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Guess this gives us some clarity on the manager situation? Or Joe is saying screw it he's not going to be left in limbo while a decision is made.
Posted by DalenSA
2024 DAT RotY
Member since Jan 2023
11891 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:11 am to
LMAO please go to Seattle
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63960 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:22 am to
I think technically he’s not under contract anymore so he can meet with anyone. It would be stunning if they rehired him at least to me, I think it’s pretty obvious that is not happening
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