re: tOfficial DAT Offseason Thread

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My Astros takeaway from this series is that we gave Dubon away when we had nobody to replace him

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No doubt. He would have immediately become our best hitting outfielder. And I’m saying that as someone that Dubon used to drive crazy.

I’m copying this from the Braves thread. They’re obviously a lot better than we are, but man this sounds familiar.

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Blame the GM for going into this season thinking that chronically injured pitchers starting the season on the IL suddenly wouldn't be chronically injured... and then doing minimal work to negate the lack of starting pitching at the deadline.

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Blame the GM for going into this season thinking that chronically injured pitchers starting the season on the IL suddenly wouldn't be chronically injured... and then doing minimal work to negate the lack of starting pitching at the deadline.

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So at least we aren't the only ones, I suppose.

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You are saddled with 3 years 75 million of Altuve

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His salary drops to $13m/year for the last couple of years. It was front loaded

Jose needs to go back to who he was as a younger hitter at this point, as I think the physical ability has eroded to the point where he can’t pull everything in the air anymore and do damage.

The 60+ mil or whatever it is being spent on Walker, Imai, Javier for absolutely zero positive production in return is infuriating. My guess is they will trade Pena and slide Correa to SS (even though I think it’s clear he should not be playing there anymore) and do their best to run it back one more time with some other minor additions

Tuve needs to be in LF

Alvarez DH spot plays in LF and Spring Training 1 B

CF C SP RP FA needs

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If by not playing there anymore due to more risk of injury, I get it.

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I feel like a lot of these precautions are useless. Teams do more than ever to prevent injury, yet guys are still always hurt.

Correa is 32. he should have two decent seasons of SS in him.

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But the conundrum remains, a roster with both alvarez and altuve is built in self sabatoge by deaign

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Whatever, ryno.

You're up here making arguments to correct a non-Top3 issue with the roster.

Seriously, what to do with Altuve needs to be way down the list of worries.

Bagwell, GM, Manager, Bench Coach, Hitting Coach, Infield Coach, Walker, Outfield, Outfield, Outfield, Pitcher, Pitcher, Pitcher, Pitcher, Pitcher, Relief Pitcher, Relief Pitcher, Relief Pitcher, Relief Pitcher, Imai (notice, I am listing him separate from any type of Pitcher, cuz we all know that MFer don't pitch), Water Boy, Whoever thought it was a good idea to have Geoff Blum throw out the first pitch while facing the White Sox (probably Bagwell), and then, Altuve.

Truly, the only logical solution was to eat shite this season, deal everybody NOT named Altuve at the trade deadline. And regroup for 2028/2029ish.

Let Altuve chase 3,000 unburdened. It worked for Biggio and the payoff was a roster full of guys that won a WS. I'm okay with that tradeoff.

Anything is better than the garbage mediocrity that was on the field the past two season.

Highly unlikely he gets to 3,000 now. He will be 39 the final year of his contract. He is 480 hits shy with a likely large portion of 2027 games canceled.

He got 131 hits in 2026 with 524 abs. OBP barely above. 300 and OPS. 701. I dont see how any sane org keeps giving him 520 abs.

I love the guy and he is the GOAT for this franchise but reality is here.

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Highly unlikely he gets to 3,000 now. He will be 39 the final year of his contract. He is 480 hits shy with a likely large portion of 2027 games canceled.

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I agree, plus he had at least 100 hits taken away for covid year BS.

He won't make it. But the Astros are a minimum 3 years away from making another WS run (not counting the incoming lock-out year). Might as well give him the same opportunity that Biggio received. Biggio stats in his 36 yr old season are virtually the same as Altuve's 36 yr old season.

I'm just saying that getting rid of Altuve at this point is a net-negative. You'd either be replacing him with someone of equal performance while still paying Altuve, or you will be paying a premium for better performance while still paying for Altuve -- which means you have less money available to add some net-positive players.

Altuve's payroll is on the books, regardless. Pursue the lower hanging fruit.

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A serious organization trying to win is not rolling out a Correa-Altuve middle infield in 2026.

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You and I have differed on where this organization stood since post ASB '25, I would guess

Attempting to be relevant this past season and a half came at the expense of rebuilding from the ground up, IMO

Maybe could have built around Yed, wisely or not, but no way that happens now if we're talking about a "serious organization"

I EXPECT Correa and Altuve when play resumes.