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re: This might interest some of you.... certainly a cause for concern
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:49 am to TxTiger82
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:49 am to TxTiger82
@TxTiger82
so your saying that they would not do this to pick up a player like Landon Collins or T Davis???? Both players have been targeted by Texas from my understanding.... get em on TV and then we will see what you really think.... open your eyes
so your saying that they would not do this to pick up a player like Landon Collins or T Davis???? Both players have been targeted by Texas from my understanding.... get em on TV and then we will see what you really think.... open your eyes
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Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:49 am to TxTiger82
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But you guys are the only ones who care.
In the short term is probably impacts Aggies the most, but because this is the first network of it's kind it's going to set a precedent for future individual school networks. If the NCAA gives the green light to the LHN to televise recruit's games everyone else it going to jump on it too. This has larger implications than just inside the state of Texas.
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I'm not convinced something wrong IS going on. You guys are making a big deal over this because it gives them an advantage. But nothing about this screams illegal to me.
I think it's great for them that they have their own network. They've negotiated a hell of a deal in getting "the Worldwide Leader of Sports" to run commercials for them all day long. I have two problems with it: 1) airing high school athletics on a single-team's network. 2) airing a Big XII conference game on the network and forcing fans of your opposition to subscribe to your network in order to see their team play, while listening to your homer announcing team. (the big issue here is that our commissioner is apparently completely cool with this ... which tells me he's not so much a conference commissioner but a longhorn commissioner).
A current NCAA rule states that an institution or coach cannot play a role in arranging for a high school athlete to be on TV. Right now the longhorns are saying that it's not them but ESPN that's determining who will be on TV. So in effect they're trying to argue that the LHN is not their network, but ESPN's, so they aren't arranging anything. But what is ESPN going to choose to show longhorn fans? Games in the middle of West Texas? A 2A podunk town bout? Or are they going to make the smart business decision to air games of top recruits? It's shady business.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:52 am to TxTiger82
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Seriously doubt they do this in Louisiana.
You don't have a good grasp on their leadership or intentions. Not trying to be a jerk, but I already told you they intend to air a game in Arizona. You don't think they'll go into LSU turf ... why?
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:55 am to AAM02
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You don't think they'll go into LSU turf ... why?
If they have to go into Louisiana for top recruits ,they must not be able to handpick recruits in TX like they normally do.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:03 am to Big Kat
it's geauxcowboys.com, if you were serious.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:10 am to c on z
I agree with the ag. the texas network should be able to broadcast anything it wants about texas and texas only.
Going into High schools is crossing the line. if will lyles is such a terrible thing, this is worse. buying poor video for 6k or providing a television broadcast at texas's expense for much more. why is one a big issue and the other isn't?
texas is basically buying the high school coaches by offering free marketing of their program. who you think they are going to favor during the recruiting process? This is definitely a conflict in interest. no way a high school coach can be objective and fair when one of the schools is providing a free benefit to them. that hight school can make more money as a result of being broadcasted.
Going into High schools is crossing the line. if will lyles is such a terrible thing, this is worse. buying poor video for 6k or providing a television broadcast at texas's expense for much more. why is one a big issue and the other isn't?
texas is basically buying the high school coaches by offering free marketing of their program. who you think they are going to favor during the recruiting process? This is definitely a conflict in interest. no way a high school coach can be objective and fair when one of the schools is providing a free benefit to them. that hight school can make more money as a result of being broadcasted.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:10 am to c on z
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If they have to go into Louisiana for top recruits ,they must not be able to handpick recruits in TX like they normally do.
are you saying that a louisiana player could never crack the top 20 players in Texas?
if they can, then why wouldn't UTa take the best player available and instead settle for a lesser player?
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:11 am to Prominentwon
Prom, I had no idea McNeese had a fan site. I will definitely check it out 
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:13 am to Big Kat
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are you saying that a louisiana player could never crack the top 20 players in Texas?
if they can, then why wouldn't UTa take the best player available and instead settle for a lesser player?
they would try. if it becomes a problem, you'll see other schools start their own mini-networks to televise highschool games. it will destroy high school football.. but.. i highly doubt les miles will give up a recruiting advantage like this.
imo no high school game outside of the playoffs and finals should be televised
This post was edited on 7/30/11 at 11:15 am
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:15 am to bmy
If you hate it so much start your own gawddamn network. Oh right, you need people to watch to justify one.
Calm down aggies, Mack only gets to take around 20 kids a year and he already gets 95% of what he wants, a network won't change that.
Calm down aggies, Mack only gets to take around 20 kids a year and he already gets 95% of what he wants, a network won't change that.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:19 am to Atari
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Oh right, you need people to watch to justify one.
Do us a favor and please list the cable providers and satellite companies that have picked up the LHN to date? What? It's set to air in less than one month and not a single entitiy has agreed to pay for the LHN and televise it! You guys better place the LHN in the bargain bin next to the LifeTime Movie Channel quick or no provider is going to pick up a network that has such a small target audience.
Here's a hint. You're not Notre Dame (Catholic following). Nobody around the country gives a shite about you
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:29 am to Big Kat
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Do us a favor and please list the cable providers and satellite companies that have picked up the LHN to date?
None yet, but that's typical for television channel launches.
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You guys better place the LHN in the bargain bin next to the LifeTime Movie Channel quick or no provider is going to pick up a network that has such a small target audience.
Do you really think ESPN is going to let their $300,000,000 investment rot on the vine? I think not.
You may not want it but ESPN will push it out just like they did ESPNnews, ESPN U, and ESPN2. Cable providers didn't WANT to put them in the basic cable package either.
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Here's a hint. You're not Notre Dame (Catholic following). Nobody around the country gives a shite about you
According to CBS Sports, the Longhorns are valued at approximately $119 million, and turned a $59 million profit last year. That's more than any other team by a large margin, you don't get there if you aren't loved outside of your own state.
Who was second you might ask?
Notre Dame at $108 million and boasting profits of $38 million (according to Forbes)
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:39 am to Atari
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According to CBS Sports, the Longhorns are valued at approximately $119 million, and turned a $59 million profit last year. That's more than any other team by a large margin, you don't get there if you aren't loved outside of your own state.
you do when your state is the size of a country
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:46 am to Atari
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Mack only gets to take around 20 kids a year and he already gets 95% of what he wants, a network won't change that.
And that makes airing high school recruits ok how?
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:06 pm to vest78
First aTm, now texas. What are we going todo? Now tbe texas scbools are going to radi la and beat us out for every recruit we want. Make it stop.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:08 pm to AAM02
Didn't A&M basically enable UT to do all of this in the first place by sticking with the Big XII?
And to the longhorn fan, there is no way in hell that your network will ever be offered alongside ESPNU and ESPN News. There is only a regional market for UT sports and news, and in Louisiana that doesn't extend past Shreveport. I think this idea will flop and is full of hubris. The idea pretty much sucks, and if A&M had any cajones they would leave this conference that is clearly run by Texas.
And to the longhorn fan, there is no way in hell that your network will ever be offered alongside ESPNU and ESPN News. There is only a regional market for UT sports and news, and in Louisiana that doesn't extend past Shreveport. I think this idea will flop and is full of hubris. The idea pretty much sucks, and if A&M had any cajones they would leave this conference that is clearly run by Texas.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:09 pm to AAM02
[quote]1) airing high school athletics on a single-team's network.
Is that really wrong? Is it illegal? OK then, so we've determined that the Ags are just bitching.
Is that really wrong? Is it illegal? OK then, so we've determined that the Ags are just bitching.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:11 pm to AAM02
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Mack only gets to take around 20 kids a year and he already gets 95% of what he wants, a network won't change that.
And that makes airing high school recruits ok how?
How the hell is it wrong? You have yet to answer that question.
HS games get aired on TV ALL THE TIME, especially in the playoffs.
So are you really going to sit here and argue that the new Longhorn Network can't air whatever sporting events they want?
I'm sorry, but there is absolutely no legal standing for such a position.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:28 pm to TxTiger82
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HS games get aired on TV ALL THE TIME, especially in the playoffs.
So are you really going to sit here and argue that the new Longhorn Network can't air whatever sporting events they want?
I'm sorry, but there is absolutely no legal standing for such a position.
It's a grey area in recruiting. A university network should not be able to air a sporting event with players that they are recruiting.
It's no different really than a school running their own under armour/AA game.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:38 pm to bmy
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A university network should not be able to air a sporting event with players that they are recruiting.
Why not?
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It's no different really than a school running their own under armour/AA game.
It is a lot different.
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