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re: This is what I hate about Boise

Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:19 am to
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:19 am to
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The sad part is the people who think going 13-0 and winning the Rose Bowl is not a good season.


well the point is to win the national title, unfortunately the system in place only allows teams like TCU, Boise, Utah before their move to the Pac 12 to have to settle with a 13-0 and a win in a meaningless bowl game.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:24 am to
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well the point is to win the national title, unfortunately the system in place only allows teams like TCU, Boise, Utah before their move to the Pac 12 to have to settle with a 13-0 and a win in a meaningless bowl game.


thank you for proving my point
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:25 am to
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a win in a meaningless bowl game.


You must be miserable during most CFB seasons.
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:26 am to
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You must be miserable during most CFB seasons.


no i just take it for what it is. and yes it stifles my overall interest in the product
This post was edited on 9/4/11 at 11:27 am
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:28 am to
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thank you for proving my point


so you would perfer that all sports go to a system in which teams should just be happy that they had a good record and the only thing they can show for it is a exhibition game trophy at the end of the year? that sounds awesome. Maybe they should just quit keeping score and fan bases could just be happy if their team showed great effort and skill all year
Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:43 am to
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no i just take it for what it is. and yes it stifles my overall interest in the product


Man, you've bought the whole BCS Showcase - MNC with all it's lights, bells and whistles - hook line and sinker.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:49 am to
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so you would perfer that all sports go to a system in which teams should just be happy that they had a good record and the only thing they can show for it is a exhibition game trophy at the end of the year? that sounds awesome. Maybe they should just quit keeping score and fan bases could just be happy if their team showed great effort and skill all year



Can you construct some more straw men to plow down?

I think regular season's should matter. The season in FBS is the one that matters the most. The result of a larger sample are better.

Posted by kclsufan
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:53 am to
See, the thing I don't get is how they (Mushburger, etc) were saying last night how Boise's schedule is set up for them to make a NC run since they don't have any quality opponents this year. Well if that's true, how can we ever know how good Boise really is if they never play a LSU or Bama or Oklahoma? It's like when Hawaii played the Dogs--illusion, meet reality. Boise may be solid, but unless there's a bunch of 2 loss teams at the end of the year, their SOS should keep them from the NC game.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:54 am to
The BCS status quo will be much better after conference realignment is finished. 16 teams in the PAC, 16 teams in the SEC, and probably the same in the Big 10 plus whatever.

Conference winners match up in bowls, and there's your playoffs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:57 am to
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If they had lost to UGA, people would be saying see they don't belong,

in the top 5? yeah. that's what happens when you lose to a lower-ranked team

notre dame and TCU are going to fall. there isn't any bias against them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:58 am to
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the sad thing is we will never see how good this team really is/was because of the retarded bcs system.

we wouldn't anyway
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 11:59 am to
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so you would perfer that all sports go to a system in which teams should just be happy that they had a good record and the only thing they can show for it is a exhibition game trophy at the end of the year?

well an exhibition trophy, and all the exposure they get from the game itself, is better than sitting home that week
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:00 pm to
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Conference winners match up in bowls, and there's your playoffs.

that will still leave boise out, most likely
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:01 pm to
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It's like when Hawaii played the Dogs--illusion, meet reality.


If you look at Hawaii that year, they not only played a weak schedule, they did not dominate it the way Boise and TCU have. Non AQ detractors love to bring up Hawaii, but it proves nothing. They were never ranked in the top 5 because everyone saw they were not that good.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:08 pm to
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no i just take it for what it is. and yes it stifles my overall interest in the product

I completely agree. I find no reason to be that excited about a bowl game victory. There is no allure to a bowl game, even a BCS one (excluding the title game). I mean, seriously, why the frick would you go around and brag that your team is the Fiesta Bowl champions? My interest in college football has dwindled because the only thing that matters is one game in January.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:08 pm to
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in the top 5? yeah. that's what happens when you lose to a lower-ranked team

notre dame and TCU are going to fall. there isn't any bias against them


Its not just the top 5 ranking , of course if they had lost they would/should drop, as Oregon will, that's not what I mean. Boise detractors will not give them (or any non AQ) credit for anything they do. If they win, the excuses fly. Bama gets hammered by Utah, well its because Smith was suspended or they didn't care about the Sugar Bowl after losing to Fla. Boise beats VT, well VT is no good they lost to JMU. VT goes on to win 10 strait, well the ACC sucks. TCU beat Wisconsin, well Wisky was over rated the B1G sucks, etc, etc.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:12 pm to
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. I find no reason to be that excited about a bowl game victory


another one proving my point, its a sad, sad world that thinks there is 1 winner and everyone else is a loser.

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hy the frick would you go around and brag that your team is the Fiesta Bowl champions


You can brag about having a good season.
Posted by Zantrix
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:13 pm to
It's the same excuses after every game with Boise & TCU.

All I read on here for the last month was how UGA was going to skull frick them, but suddenly now they're not even going to finish with a winning record. Most rantards can't even tell you the correct conference that Boise is in this year, much less name the state they play in.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:15 pm to
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You can brag about having a good season.

I guess, but if you are an elite powerhouse, then why should they? Anything thing short of the national title is a failure.
Posted by Zantrix
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:16 pm to
Also, I agree with a previous statement:

We need to get a Boise State thread stickied so that these damn things won't pop up every day during the season.
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