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re: This is what I hate about Boise
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Almost all are on cable, CFB games, even ones featuring a 7-5 MAC team vs a 7-5 CUSA team is better than 99% of the other shite on TV.
Not to me. Maybe I just have a different opinion on this because my interest in college football has declined over the past couple of years. I found that I did not really give a shite about bowl season last year. I felt the season was already over, and I had no interest in the glorified exhibitions.
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is what I hate about Boise
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If they had lost to UGA, people would be saying see they don't belong,
in the top 5? yeah. that's what happens when you lose to a lower-ranked team
notre dame and TCU are going to fall. there isn't any bias against them
Man get that logic the frick out of here!!11!. This is a Bash Boise thread. Not A make sense while discussing Boise and their controversial road to a potential bscncg thread.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:48 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Why should bowl games, even the lesser ones not be on TV?
oh i think they should all be on TV
but they can double/triple up many of the lower games. layer it more than they are now
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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its rare, how is not winning it every year a failure?
it's not a failure it's just irrelevant
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:54 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
another "fan" who has only seen the Saban era and beyond... I'll take a top 10 finish every year as "success"
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:55 pm to TigerPhan27
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it's not a failure it's just irrelevant
see that's one of the things about CFB...you can have a great season that isn't irrelevant just b/c you didn't win the title
there are a shite-ton of teams, and defined tiers. CFB will never be like the NFL with parity...never
it's unfair to compare the 2 systems due to that
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:56 pm to chalmetteowl
Would be happy with this season if LSU lost to Alabama this year and won out the rest of their games?
If you consider yourself a national contender this year, then why in the world would you be happy with anything less?
If you consider yourself a national contender this year, then why in the world would you be happy with anything less?
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:58 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Would be happy with this season if LSU lost to Alabama this year and won out the rest of their games?
If you consider yourself a national contender this year, then why in the world would you be happy with anything less?
50% chance we're BCS NC in that scenario
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:00 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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I fail to see why you think the title game is not special to me
I'm sure it is to you personally, as it should be, I'm just pointing out that your zero sum rhetoric is actually devaluing winning the title. LSU, Alabama, OU and probably 3,4 other teams are capable of winning it all. Only 1 can and anything can happen in a one game setting.
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If LSU does as your scenario suggests and only loses to the eventual champion, Alabama, then are you happy with this season?
define happy? Would I rather us beat Bama and win the NC? Of course, but I would not consider the season a failure if we go 12-1 and win the Sugar Bowl with our only loss at a team that plays in the title game. We have so much young talent, we are in a position to make run the next couple of years.
Things are also relative. If the Saints win their division, but lose their fist playoff game, that's different than losing at Lambeau in the NFC CG game or losing in the SB. I don't think the 2006 season was a failure for the Saints because they didn't win the SB. Was it disappointing, yes, but not a failure.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:02 pm to chalmetteowl
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50% chance we're BCS NC in that scenario
Sorry, I meant to include you will not be in the national game in this scenario. LSU's only loss is to Alabama, who is the eventual national champion, and LSU goes on to win a random BCS bowl or something like the Cotton Bowl. Would you be happy with that?
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:06 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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If you consider yourself a national contender this year, then why in the world would you be happy with anything less?
because there are probably 6 or 7 other teams as good and capable of winning it all and only 1 can. I think you are confusing disappointment with failure.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:07 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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I think if Boise plays Oregon, Florida, Auburn, Ole Miss, Bama, Tennesee, West Virginia and Miss State (or some variation of that) Arkansas jacks them up nearly every year at Thanksgiving.
And only give them 7 days to prepare for any of those teams and they lose. The OU game they had more than 30 days to prepare, same when they played TCU. The UGA and VT games they had the entire offseason. They good but should not be in the conversation for a NC.
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its rare, how is not winning it every year a failure?
LSU this year has so much talent, i think it is a failure if they don't win it. other years no, but this year, yes.
This post was edited on 9/4/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:07 pm to H-Town Tiger
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LSU, Alabama, OU and probably 3,4 other teams are capable of winning it all. Only 1 can and anything can happen in a one game setting.
For those roughly seven or eight teams that have a shot to win it, then yes anything less would be a failure. Of course, different teams should have different goals. A team like Western Michigan should not have a goal to win a BCS game, but maybe win their conference. It is only a failure if you were a national title contender.
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Things are also relative. If the Saints win their division, but lose their fist playoff game, that's different than losing at Lambeau in the NFC CG game or losing in the SB. I don't think the 2006 season was a failure for the Saints because they didn't win the SB. Was it disappointing, yes, but not a failure.
My best example of this would be the 2007 Patriots. They were obviously the top team in football that season by a longshot. Sadly, their season is considered a failure by many because they did not win the Super Bowl. However, I still consider them the greatest football team of all-time.
My point is that if you have a relatively good chance to win the national title and you do not win it all, then that is a failure. It only about applies to about five to ten teams each year.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:13 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Not to me. Maybe I just have a different opinion on this because my interest in college football has declined over the past couple of years. I found that I did not really give a shite about bowl season last year. I felt the season was already over, and I had no interest in the glorified exhibitions.
That's fine if you just don't like CFB, but kind of sad if your only interest is a post season tournament.
My interest in College Basketball is practically nil outside of the Tourney. A big part of that is the demise of the LSU basketball program. I grew up in the 80's when we were always pretty good, but its also because the regular season is practically meaningless? I can't wait for OU vs FSU in a couple of weeks. Its basically a playoff game since the lose would need a lot of help to get into the BCS CG. Why do i care about a regular season Duke vs Pitt basketball game, when a team can finish 9th in its conference and win the title because they got hot late?
I'm not against playoffs mind you, I'd rather CFB have a 4 team playoff, but playoffs with too many teams devalue the regular season.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's fine if you just don't like CFB, but kind of sad if your only interest is a post season tournament.
I don't think I want a postseason tournament. The regular season still has value. The bowl game system is what is complete garbage. I almost wish there were no bowl games and just one national championship. However, money always wins, so the papajohnsonline.com bowl game will continue to exist.
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My interest in College Basketball is practically nil outside of the Tourney.
Same. As long as a big team is remotely good, then they will make it. The tournament is fun as shite, but I could not care less about the regular season.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:26 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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My point is that if you have a relatively good chance to win the national title and you do not win it all, then that is a failure. It only about applies to about five to ten teams each year
I think this is somewhat contradictory to then say the 2007 Pats the best team ever. I think we are more on the same page than we thought, just arguing over semantics. The 07 Pats are considered to be a failure by a zero sum mentality that thinks the "best" team is some kind of given truth. The Pats were clearly the better team over 16 games, but the Giants were a good team, capable of beating anyone on any given Sunday. It took a miracle play on a late drive just to beat NE by 3. To me the failure is in a system that gives more mediocre teams like the 07 Giants a 2nd or 3rd chance.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I think we are more on the same page than we thought, just arguing over semantics.
FWIW, we are usually on the same page.
Maybe failure is too strong of a word. However, I just do not see any reason that an OU, Bama, LSU, etc. fan would be happy with this season if they do not win the national title.
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To me the failure is in a system that gives more mediocre teams like the 07 Giants a 2nd or 3rd chance.
I highly recommend that you get into international soccer then. The system is perfect, and the games are highly entertaining.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:31 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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I almost wish there were no bowl games and just one national championship. However, money always wins, so the papajohnsonline.com bowl game will continue to exis
I agree there are too many bowls, when you have teams with .500 records, firing their coach making a bowl, but I still like bowl games. LSU did a lot better last year than I thought we would
(especially after the Tenn game). I don't think we deserved a shot at the NC, but a game like the Cotton Bowl is a reward for a good season and a fun game to watch.
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
the patriots would have been manchester united with 100+ points (maximum possible 114) in the premier league season, and the giants everton who finished in 7th and beat them in stoppage time of the FA Cup final
This post was edited on 9/4/11 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I don't think we deserved a shot at the NC, but a game like the Cotton Bowl is a reward for a good season and a fun game to watch.
It is a nice consolation prize for most fans. I am just a negative college football fan. I mean, if LSU has no chance to win the national title that year, then yeah, a Cotton Bowl victory is nice. I merely find the current bowl system to be boring, outside of the the title game. I just wish the season ended for everyone but two teams with the CCG.
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