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re: Things more irrelevant than college bowls.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:34 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:34 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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8 wins should be the minimum requirement for everyone to play in a bowl
I'd be good with that. At least that would ensure the Sun Belt champ at 10+ wins isn't stuck playing some 6-6 or 7-5 MAC/CUSA team for a bowl game.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:36 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Start with the ones that have 6-6 Big 12 and ACC teams playing 7-5 AAC and Mountain West teams
8 wins should be the minimum requirement for everyone to play in a bowl
Always funny hearing about how they have to invite a team with a losing record just to have enough teams
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:00 pm to Alt26
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None of their payments are tied to them playing
What is it that you think makes their name image and likeness valuable?
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And generally the ones opting-out are the ones who aren't planning to play for the school the next season, so what leverage does the coach have to force them to play?
Hence my assertion about valuable development and practice time.
Get the malcontents out and develop.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:03 pm to Alt26
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Sure you can. Just allow dates throughout the offseason for practice. Allow 7 practices in January/February then another 7 in May/June in addition to the regular spring practices. If the additional practice is the most important part of the situation then simply allow more practice during the offseason. That doesn't require a bowl game.
You are worried about opt outs and fatigue but think the solution is more intrasqaud practices and scrimmages over getting ready for a decent opponent in what is typically a fun vacation spot?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:24 pm to Adam Banks
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You are worried about opt outs and fatigue but think the solution is more intrasqaud practices and scrimmages over getting ready for a decent opponent in what is typically a fun vacation spot?
I'm not "worried" about anything. I was simply responding to the poster who said the bowl game provided an invaluable additional 15 practices by pointing out the rules/schedule can be adjusted to allow those additional practices throughout the offseason without the need for a bowl game. Also, to your point, those 15 extra practices wouldn't be occurring just a few weeks after the grind of a 3 month season. They would be more in the nature of "mini camps" spread out over the course of the offseason like the NFL does. If the additional practices are the only meaningful aspect of the bowl game then having those additional practices without the need for a bowl game can be accomplished by other means.
The previous poster I was referring to was calling the players "selfish and entitled" for not wanting to play in the bowl game...which seems ironic because it seems like his reasoning for them playing in the game is to make his viewing experience as a fan more enjoyable.
I'm not advocating for the bowl games to be done away with as others in this discussion are. I enjoy watching them if for no other reason it is the last time I will see college football games for 9 months. I'm simply saying the games themselves aren't that meaningful.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:27 pm to Adam Banks
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What is it that you think makes their name image and likeness valuable?
Those payments aren't conditioned upon them playing in a bowl game. The poster said they are "paid employees" and implied because of that they should be forced to play in the bowl game. They aren't "employees". The NIL contracts are not employment contracts where payment is contingent upon playing. That means he's going to be paid regardless of if he chooses to play in the bowl game or not.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:30 pm to ChipKelly
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I love the bowl games. No matter how "meaningless" they are to some, the smaller programs that are excited to be bowl eligible play really hard in those games. Fun to watch over the holidays.
I get tired of hearing how “meaningless” bowls are. It’s college sports…it’s all meaningless. Most regular season games are meaningless bc most programs have no real shot at winning the NC.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:34 pm to BluegrassCardinal
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When will the current system collapse?
When people quit watching. Even the pre-Christmas Bowls do better TV ratings than Christmas Day NBA games. As long as the networks can garner enough viewers to get the advertisers to keep paying $$$$, they will continue. Follow the money.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:08 pm to VABuckeye
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Bowls mean 15 extra practices and that means more development for the younger players. It's invaluable practice time you can't get back.
Honestly that shouldn’t be tied to getting a decent record in the regular season…
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:47 pm to ragincajun03
Things more irrelevant than college bowls.
—Kamala Harris
—Kamala Harris
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:53 pm to Alt26
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It's people shedding the fog of nostalgia and "tradition" to accept what they have long been...glorified exhibition games.
outside of 1 or two bowls per year they have ALWAYS been exhibitions.
some people just enjoy watching college football even if that particular game doesn't determine who is the national champion.
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But, with the push to have championships determined "on the field" in a championship game
college football has always determined their champion on the field.
and unlike all other sports, they realized (up until recently) that the season starts week 1, not mid December.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:55 pm to BluegrassCardinal
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8 wins should be the minimum requirement for everyone to play in a bowl
Six wins should not be "bowl eligible." I would say seven should be the minimum requirement.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:39 pm to BluegrassCardinal
I still enjoy bowl season and hate when players sit out
Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:57 pm to BluegrassCardinal
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Things more irrelevant than college bowls.
Last year the Cure Bowl between Miami (OH) and App State did better ratings than a basketball game between UNC and Kentucky in the same time slot, so I’ll say the college basketball regular season.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:29 pm to BluegrassCardinal
quote:Nobody hates college football being on tv in december more than elder gen x/boomer college football fans. It's ridiculous.
When will the current system collapse?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:37 pm to Nutriaitch
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college football has always determined their champion on the field. and unlike all other sports, they realized (up until recently) that the season starts week 1, not mid December.
Like 2004 Auburn or 2023 FSU?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:18 pm to BluegrassCardinal
More football > less football
More football > more basketball
More football > more basketball
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:21 pm to WG_Dawg
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WG_Dawg
Solid post. Completely agree
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