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re: The "U" 30 for 30

Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:53 am to
Posted by Emilio7
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:53 am to
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That in and of itself does not make one program better than another.


You've gotta be kidding me.

Let any of the three (58,03,07) LSU teams match up against Miami. I'd take Miami hands down. You're kidding yourself if you want to try and compare LSU and Miami.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:53 am to
Back on. Didn't see it at 9 when it first aired, so I'm watching it now. Will probably watch the first half tonight, since it's late, and watch the second half some other time.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:54 am to
LSU is being investigated right now.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:54 am to
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We're talking about the programs entire history.

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LSU just hasn't done the things that Miami has in the past 3 decades.


3 decades is LSU's entire history. But it is Miami's.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:54 am to
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Well they have one of the best teams of all time in 2001 and were robbed of a MNC in 2002.


Massive fail.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:54 am to
It's always good for guys to have spontaneity, and I hate the NCAA's rules on celebration, but at some point, players should act like they've been there already. If you have 100 tackles and 5 interceptions, there' no reason to do a dance after tipping a pass away from the tight end.

The whole thing about U players being involved in the program is a little overdone from guys like Feldman. Duke and UNC basketball players are often heavily involved with the team when they are done with school. Now I am pretty sure Grant Hill and Christian Laettner aren't cursing at Scheyer after a loss , but they definitely have a relationship with the current players, just like Blades, Irvin, etc. I'm sure it's prevalent at most good programs since the players are very proud of their school.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:56 am to
It seemed like the filmmaker doesn't watch any college football at all. While the footage and the stories were awesome and entertaining, the actual film and their conclusions about Butch Davis destroying the program were laughable
Posted by Enrique
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:56 am to
if u people want to watch a good documentary on the whole Miami swagga scene and high school football watch "Year of the Bull" it shows how dudes get paid for big plays during high school games.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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160203 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:56 am to
I would rather see players having fun than robots.
Posted by Enrique
Bogota, Colombia
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:57 am to
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It seemed like the filmmaker doesn't watch any college football at all.


hes a street sensationalist. he made cocaine cowboys 1 and 2 and glorifies thuggery and all that. he made it look like since butch tried to clean the program's image that it made it suck because it tried to eliminate the whole swagger attitude.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:57 am to
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if u people want to watch a good documentary on the whole Miami swagga scene and high school football watch "Year of the Bull" it shows how dudes get paid for big plays during high school games.



Its about Miami Northwestern I take it?
Posted by thenry712
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:58 am to
Exactly...I mean Charles Scott and AJ Green got flagged for hugging teammates and thanking God respectively.
Posted by Enrique
Bogota, Colombia
Member since Oct 2006
5597 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:58 am to
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Its about Miami Northwestern I take it?


yeah and the recruitment of Taurean Charles, a top LB prospect who ended up at UF. shows you how big football is in the ghettos of Miami.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 12:59 am to
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their conclusions about Butch Davis destroying the program


Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:00 am to
Yeah, the NCAA wants to ban emotion because it makes old white men nervous.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:01 am to
HH, doesn't it get contrived at some point? I am completely in support of ending excessive celebration penalties, but all the choreographed shite Deion did in his career was kind of lame.

I have seen a 10 minute clip of Year of the Bull. It looks like a hell of a film. Did the coach end up getting fired for all the shite that he did?

Enrique, I am assuming that Billy Corben has an upper-middle class background and probably never stepped foot in Liberty City or similar parts of town until his mid-20s. Is that right?
Posted by Enrique
Bogota, Colombia
Member since Oct 2006
5597 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:02 am to
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Yeah, the NCAA wants to ban emotion because it makes old white men nervous.


celebrating after a TD is fine but u dont think its annoying when they celebrate after making a standard tackle?
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:03 am to
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Agreed. The ending sucked, and looked like it was made by someone who doesn't watch much college football. Blaming Butch Davis for the collapse of the program was hilarious.

That was terrible , it was as if he took Luke's word as the truth.

All in all very superficial. Like how can they not show the 1993 Sugar Bowl v. Alabama? Showing how dat swag occasionally blew up on them was also an interesting angle.



Posted by Enrique
Bogota, Colombia
Member since Oct 2006
5597 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:03 am to
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Enrique, I am assuming that Billy Corben has an upper-middle class background and probably never stepped foot in Liberty City or similar parts of town until his mid-20s. Is that right?


I think he's a U grad smart enough to capitalize on the whole "street scene" that is really popular in Miami. Little does he realize (or he probably doesn't give a shite cuz hes making $$) that this mentality perpetuates the cycle.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 1:04 am to
Yeah, some people take it too far, but I'd rather see Deion dance than Charles Scott get flagged for being mildly excited.
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