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re: The threat from ULL to LSU (long)

Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:35 am to
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:35 am to
Worry about your own team ;)
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:36 am to
USL board?
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:37 am to
You need to seriously pump the breaks. I spent just a few years working in college athletics. Was at three different programs, two of which were smaller by LSU standards but much bigger than ULL.

In just those few years I saw not less than 50 venues slated to built or upgraded. Almost all of those projects are still unstarted and I've been out of that field for over five years.

ULL is will always be a solid baseball and softball programs, but they're one football coach leaving away from being exactly where they were a decade ago.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 9:41 am
Posted by Jefferson Davis
Plank Road
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:37 am to
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Lastly, Tech, ULM and Tulane are all trying to do the exact same thing as ULL


Exactly. Tulane is building a new stadium with plans for an IPF and other athletics facilities. Their resources are FAR greater and in the long run, assuming they continue to commit to athletics, they have the brightest future of any program in this state not named LSU.

Every other school in the state is competing to be #2, and good for them. But at the end of the day, ULL is a threat to Tech, Tulane, ULM, etc. Not LSU.

We're spending over $100 million on athletic facilities right now. Over $300 million in renovations to Tiger Stadium in the last decade. ULL has an athletic revenue of $10 million when you take away state subsidies. Even with subsidies, it would take their entire athletic department a decade to match what LSU makes in one football season. It's just not comparable.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 9:41 am
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94604 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:40 am to
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I just honestly don't see how they can justify doubling their seating capacity when they can't even sell out what the capacity stands at now.


Christ. You realize that the expansion to that number isn't gonna happen right away? There's no definite plan to expand by that much but the long term facilities master plan has the vision for it, if down the road, further expansion is warranted.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18408 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:42 am to
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Worry about your own team

Says a Cajun fan on an LSU board.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160105 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:43 am to
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Says a Cajun fan on an LSU board.




Responding to yet another thread about UL.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:43 am to
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yes....people like me and you do. but, the big dogs just buy them for many many other reasons.


Sure...but there has to be an interest for those being given tickets. Despite the now decade plus attempt by elected officials and media in Lafayette, the vast majority of locals still root for LSU. I'd wager that there are more LSU football season ticket holders in the Acadiana area than there are asses in seats at most USL football games. Those folks who root for USL (I'm an alumnus and reserve the right to call the university that forever) are almost exclusively connected to the school in someway. That's not at ALL a bad thing, but to rival the national powers (like the one an hour away in Baton Rouge) you can only do that by virtue of a strong and interested sidewalk alumni base. It's what gets you big time conference affiliations, revenue and national name recognition.

Point being...an average sports fans with no particular affiliation to a school would still, without question, prefer a day at Tiger Stadium versus a day at Cajun Field if given the choice of free tickets.

And look...as an alumnus , it's always pained me to pull against the school. But as a life-long LSU fan, I've always found it disgusting that far too many USL fans are worried about LSU than they have traditionally been with their own success. I know this first hand having listened to this garbage for the past 2 decades plus. I'd never suggest USL "know it's place" and remain content to stay there...but what's the harm in enjoying your own success without constantly feeling the need to measure your dick against one of the most well endowed players in all of college athletics? It's a recipe for unhappiness and forced otherwise indifferent LSU fans to pull support for you rather than toss a little your way.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18408 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:45 am to
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Responding to yet another thread about UL.

At least I'm on the right board.

Here ya go. LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 9:46 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101586 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:48 am to
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quote:
Says a Cajun fan on an LSU board.




Responding to yet another thread about UL.



100 Thousdand plus posts.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16342 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:54 am to
Curious, does "Louisiana" fill their 31,000 capacity stadium now? Because I wonder where will the butts come from to fill 62,000. Are they gonna bus then in from other states?

And are they getting tax money from La to build it?
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40835 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:55 am to
There is no bad side to any school in Lousiana other than LSU having upgrades and success in athletics. Especially at LSU's expense. The problem is, until ULL reaches the level of say a Baylor or Texas Tech, they aren't going to be able to keep good coaches around. Tony Robicheaux is ULL's version of Skip Bertman. Minus the national championships, once he leaves their baseball program is going to suffer simply because he's been there so long, and has been pretty damn successful. When their football coach leaves, and he will leave for a better job. ULL will struggle once again, unless they hit the lottery and get themselves another good coach.
Posted by iluvredboxx
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2012
899 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:56 am to
Nice objective thread

Ignore most of the rantards that truly believe that EVERYTHING starts and stops with LSU and live and think in a very tiny box.

Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40835 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:56 am to
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Right here is where you went full retard. Nice troll bro. What a friggin joke.


LSU hasn't had the better softball program in quite some time.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160105 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:58 am to
We won't have trouble getting a good baseball coach. Matt Deggs is already on staff and he'd probably do a hell of a job if he could hire a good pitching coach. Deggs is one of the best hitting coaches in college baseball.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94604 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:00 am to
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Because I wonder where will the butts come from to fill 62,000.


you people don't even scan threads before responding with uninformed dribble do you?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47716 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:01 am to
yeah bc the big dogs and politicians JUST LOVE watching ULL play Georgia State and Western Kentucky and ULM
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101586 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:03 am to
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you people don't even scan threads before responding with uninformed dribble do you?


Yeah, I bet the dumbass didn't even see where the all the oil companies down Hwy 90 are all buying up blocks of 1000 seats each. Silly goose!
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:05 am to
Look at this Feb 2014 report from the state auditor's office.

See Statement A, after page 11. Reported revenues of $18.11 million include $7.55 million (40%) "Direct Institutional Support" (read taxpayer subsidy). They, LA Tech, and ULM are in FBS not by merit and market demand, but by diverting more university funds to athletics than the other state schools do.

ULL Statement of Revenues and Expenses For the Year Ended June 30, 2013
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