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re: The split is here to stay-deal with it
Posted on 12/15/13 at 1:51 pm to diablo blanco
Posted on 12/15/13 at 1:51 pm to diablo blanco
quote:
Why is giving four more teams of kids a chance to be a state champion wrong?
Let's just make sure everyone wins something. No reason for there to be any loser.
The kids should all be winners!!!
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 1:53 pm to Icansee4miles
I still don't understand why you are upset they have depth.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 1:57 pm to Lester Earl
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. No one complained when Evangel was killing everyone in 5a. It
This is the reason why we are here because Larger class schools voted to force these football factories to play down to their enrollment in 2004.
Curtis dominated 2-A for a couple decades but within a decade of them & Evangel playing up the larger schools complained & had them voted down.
Have we already forgotten Evangel & Curtis were voted out of 4 & 5-A in 2003 or '04? The big boys didn't want them for financial(splitting gates with schools with tiny fan bases) & probably football as well.
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:05 pm to sugar71
They couldn't force John Curtis to move down and not Evangel.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:28 pm to Lester Earl
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They couldn't force John Curtis to move down and not Evangel.
I don't have the vote breakdown , but I am sure a huge chunk of 142 votes to boot out Evangel & Curtis came from 5-A . Curtis never won nor played for a 5-A title.
The vote was 142-136 I believe & I am certain that very few if any 1 , 2 or 3-A schools voted for Evangel & Curtis to play 1 & 2-A ball.
It was both 4 & 5-A schools behind that.
Stop with this absurd myth that 5-A had absolutely no issue with 1 & 2-A enrollment football factories (with different rules)playing up.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:37 pm to TheDude321
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The split is here to stay-deal with it quote: Maybe he's talking about winnfield. Aren't they the only football school in Winn parish. Well, I didn't want to name names, but yes, allegedly there are 3 high schools in Winn Parish that don't compete in football and Winnfield High supposedly is allowed to take students outside of their attendance zone if they declare that they want to play football (since it holds the parish's monopoly on football), and then those students also don't have to lose a year of eligibility either when transferring. In other words, they allegedly get the advantage of taking players from parish-wide and all of the school system's football resources are concentrated at Winnfield--instead of being split over 4 high schools. Does anyone know if this is all true? Seems to make Winnfield look like it is "selective" in its own way, at least when it comes to playing football. I know that Winnfield has been pushing for the split, but if this info is true, I guess I'm just confused as to how they aren't considered a "select" school themselves.
We a had student that transferred from Atlanta and had to sit out a couple of years ago, unless something has changed if they transfer in high school they have to sit.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:47 pm to Lester Earl
What they should have done is seperate football from the other sports. Football is the only sport you are allowed to play up in.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:49 pm to TigerintheNO
I think it moot now because they have found the solution they want. Let every class vote separately on if they want to split. Only 3a will probably split.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:49 pm to sugar71
well get back to me if you can find it. I cant
all i can find is that 4A voted Curtis down with a 32-2 vote
all i can find is that 4A voted Curtis down with a 32-2 vote
Posted on 12/15/13 at 2:52 pm to oldtimefootball
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Our Principal has more "principles" than all
of you ignoramuses who continue to attack her.
This troll can't be serious. Can an Admin ban him from the board? I think we have all had enough of his stupid Winnfield shite
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:11 pm to fleaux
That doesn't happen?
ETA- Property tax resolutions are voted on by everyone registered to vote, not just property owners.
ETA- Property tax resolutions are voted on by everyone registered to vote, not just property owners.
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:23 pm to Antonio Moss
I'm not sure how to respond to your posts.
You obviously are a private school grad or a big fan of one.
Do you propose that select schools gain no advantage from having open enrollment, scholarships, etc.
You obviously are a private school grad or a big fan of one.
Do you propose that select schools gain no advantage from having open enrollment, scholarships, etc.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:35 pm to GhostofJackson
I agree there may be too many classes/divisions.
I don't agree that all schools should be grouped together based solely on enrollment numbers.
Students that live in the school district where they attend school are who public, non-select schools have on their rosters. If you believe private schools don't recruit or have students on their rosters that live outside their district, you are not a realist. I understand that some rules are broken on both sides.
I don't agree that all schools should be grouped together based solely on enrollment numbers.
Students that live in the school district where they attend school are who public, non-select schools have on their rosters. If you believe private schools don't recruit or have students on their rosters that live outside their district, you are not a realist. I understand that some rules are broken on both sides.
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:31 pm to diablo blanco
At the end of the day, there will always be a complaint of where Curtis ends up. Whether it is 1A or 5A, schools from those classes will complain and moan of how it's not fair that they have to play Curtis.
But what about everyone else? Division I this season consisted of the Catholic League and four other teams. Everyone from that division made playoffs regardless of their record.
In Division 4, Vermillion Catholic faced a team that finished 4th place in their district with 4 losses (St. Frederick). That same team beat a hot Southern Lab team a week earlier who was a dismal 3-7 on the season. Southern Lab probably wouldn't have even made the playoffs in the old system.
A total of 88 teams made the playoffs this season without a winning record. Now, please try justifying this for me. All in all, this system is a joke. To have NINE state championships in a state 1/6 the size of Texas is absurd.
Call me crazy, but I would just say to put the likes of Curtis and Evangel in 5A, tell those 5A schools to suck it up and deal with it, go back to the old format, and just move on.
All of this "everyone is a winner" crap is an example of what is bringing our country down.
[End rant]
But what about everyone else? Division I this season consisted of the Catholic League and four other teams. Everyone from that division made playoffs regardless of their record.
In Division 4, Vermillion Catholic faced a team that finished 4th place in their district with 4 losses (St. Frederick). That same team beat a hot Southern Lab team a week earlier who was a dismal 3-7 on the season. Southern Lab probably wouldn't have even made the playoffs in the old system.
A total of 88 teams made the playoffs this season without a winning record. Now, please try justifying this for me. All in all, this system is a joke. To have NINE state championships in a state 1/6 the size of Texas is absurd.
Call me crazy, but I would just say to put the likes of Curtis and Evangel in 5A, tell those 5A schools to suck it up and deal with it, go back to the old format, and just move on.
All of this "everyone is a winner" crap is an example of what is bringing our country down.
[End rant]
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:30 am to diablo blanco
quote:
I agree there may be too many classes/divisions.
I don't agree that all schools should be grouped together based solely on enrollment numbers.
Well, that's the problem--people want to lump all of the schools into only 2 groups: "select" and "non-select" schools. The reality is that the formats of all of the schools are way too complex to stop at only 2 groups. In short, there are: a) regular public schools, b) public schools that are designated as the only football-playing school for their parish, c) magnet schools, d) the deaf school, e) lab schools, f) charter schools, and g) private schools.
It's a lot more simple to recognize that the truth of the matter is that each form of school has its own advantages (and disadvantages) over other forms of schools--and that they might as well just keep one playoff system for all schools and concentrate on enforcing LHSAA bylaws rather than dividing everyone.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:39 pm to TheDude321
I agree that it is a little watered down, but I was happy to see teams like Kinder and Union win. Especially Union who had lost a player earlier this season. Any other year Union gets beat by Curtis by 45.
The only definitive #1 we couldn't determine was 1A. I would have loved to see Haynesville and Vermilion Catholic play. Both teams were very talented this year. It sucks, but that's me being selfish. VC was able to win in memory of their schools priest who passed away.
The only definitive #1 we couldn't determine was 1A. I would have loved to see Haynesville and Vermilion Catholic play. Both teams were very talented this year. It sucks, but that's me being selfish. VC was able to win in memory of their schools priest who passed away.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:20 pm to TheDude321
I have a proposal. Go back to the way it was, however when you go to count enrollment, double count any kid who is out of zone for that school (kind of like a multiplier).
If a school gets a high % of kids out of their zone, then the enrollment # for classification purposes will rise and kick them into higher classes automatically. Still give schools the opportunity to play up if they want though, and make the option available for each sport.
If a school gets a high % of kids out of their zone, then the enrollment # for classification purposes will rise and kick them into higher classes automatically. Still give schools the opportunity to play up if they want though, and make the option available for each sport.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 1:07 am to Brisket
Boys-only schools enrollment is counted or determined by DOUBLING the number, as it is. B.M., where my kids go, has about 1,300 students. But according to the LHSAA, that's 2,600.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 6:54 am to RedPop4
Maybe add a multiplier for hold backs too
Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:17 am to choupiquesushi
Can't, West Monroe would be 10A
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