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The shift in baseball.

Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:07 pm
Posted by RyleD
Member since Feb 2017
396 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:07 pm
How many times do old school announcers have to let us now that “it would have been an out without the shift”? Who’s wrong here? Nerds or people who have been around forever?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145160 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:08 pm to
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it would have been an out without the shift”?
notice how this comes up whenever a hit like this happens, but NEVER comes up when the shift robs what would have been a hit under a traditional defense?
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:11 pm to
But they used the shift in the 40’s and 50’s. Was there outrage then? I already know they did not care about PED’s then like they claim to now.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2125 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:02 pm to
They also didn’t shift on every hitter in the 40’s and 50’s either
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14035 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:16 am to
I don’t have a problem with teams using the shift. Maybe hitters should learn to not pull the ball? I know it’s easy for me to say that watching on the couch at home, but I feel like a professional Baseball player should be capable of laying down a bunt or hitting to the opposite field.

Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4590 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:47 am to
The shift looks stupid but if a pro can't get a hit with half the field open, he deserves to be out.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:54 am to
Also what are the percentages against the shift?
You’d think if they were against it, teams would stop doing it.

They haven’t
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2125 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:00 am to
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Maybe hitters should learn to not pull the ball? I know it’s easy for me to say that watching on the couch at home, but I feel like a professional Baseball player should be capable of laying down a bunt or hitting to the opposite field


Teams don’t incentivize hitters to go the other way because the analytics value power more and they’re not encouraged to do it coming up through the minors. However having a dude basically playing rover in a shift like it’s beer league softball is a joke
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 9:03 am
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:05 am to
The Joey Gallo shift.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:07 am to
You realize people still listen to ball games... not everyone is watching it too.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:09 am to
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You realize people still listen to ball game

But he’s talking about announcers that are calling the game on TV
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Teams don’t incentivize hitters to go the other way because the analytics value power more and they’re not encouraged to do it coming up through the minors. However having a dude basically playing rover in a shift like it’s beer league softball is a joke


This is the danger of relying purely on numbers. In the picture above a batter should be able to get on base at least 75% of the time.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:27 pm to
But you really aren’t seeing how they’re pitching the guy based on that picture

I guess people forget pitches determine position a bunch. You’re not going opposite field on inside pitching except for a fluke
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Got Heeem
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3631 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:39 pm to
The shift will absolutely help the evolution of the game. Not in a bad way. It will make hitters way more versatile. These guys will have to focus on their craft and make changes. I like it. If you are disrespected enough to have a whole field open, then deal with it on the practice field and offseason. Long live the shift!
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:42 pm to
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The Joey Gallo shift.


I remember that. It was ineffective against the 475 foot bomb he hit.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:01 pm to
Every. Time.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:03 pm to
I liked watching Harper bunt against the shift, we are seeing more batters do that and hit opposite field for easy hits.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15174 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:28 pm to
It works what, 7 times out of 10? They always have to bitch about the 3 times it doesn’t work
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28395 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:39 pm to
Woof that Gallo shift
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7317 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:02 pm to
I think that’s Joey Gallo. He has more Home Runs in his career than singles. I’m ok with him still trying to go yard.
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