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re: The NBA superstar team up era is ova

Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:04 am to
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:04 am to
I've only considered superteams when you have 3 all-NBA caliber players on the same team. 2 great players do not make a superteam. So no, the Lakers are definitely not a superteam. The only borderline superteam we had this season was the Suns. But Bradley Beal shouldn't even count. He had 2 great seasons on a terrible 30-win Wizards team, but other than that he has done nothing in his career. The Bucks were never close to being a superteam. Neither were last year's 76ers.

I will say that this Thunder core has the chance to become really special. SGA is already a superstar at like 24. Jalen WIlliams and Chet are emerging stars and they're only in year 2.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15338 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:13 am to
It feels a bit early to put Jokic up there. But if he wins the championship this year, it would be very hard to not put him in that conversation. 3 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs by itself would be very hard to not place him in that top ten conversation imo.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:15 am to
You consider those superstar/elite stats??
Posted by Hoops
LA
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6547 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:22 am to
Warriors recruiting KD was as much about not risking him going to a contender as it was him playing with them
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:28 am to
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hunder-SGA(superstar


I remember when totesmcgotes said Shapazz Napier was better than SGA cause of Per

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:41 am to
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I’m talking about 2+ ball dominant Superstars teaming up on one team
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Lebron/AD



I guess it was cool for Magic, Bird, and Kobe to have great centers as teammates but heaven forbid Lebron has one.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:45 am to
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wut? 2017-2018 he averaged 18.5/10.7/6.1 shooting 50/40/85....as a center
This is MJ/Lebron territory?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:55 am to
So Jokic does not get put into the category with Bird, Magic, MJ, Kobe, Lebron realm because he's only been doing it for about 4 years; yet no concern about putting Wemby in that realm in 2-3 years when at that point he would have been playing for 4 years
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:06 am to
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18.5/10.7/6.1 shooting 50/40/85....as a center
slow no one is moved by those numbers.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:07 am to
What?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:25 am to
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Warriors recruiting KD was as much about not risking him going to a contender as it was him playing with them


I remember that Kevin Durant was easily the best player on the Warriors team. I also remember that Durant was the Finals MVP on those championship teams. Seems others saw what I did.

More selective memory I see.
Posted by Minden tiger
Minden,Louisiana
Member since Apr 2006
3189 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:47 am to
GOAT arguments have to be based on tangible data and things that have already happened, not projection. Jokic has a long way to go and Wemby even further.

Jokic didn't come in lighting the world on fire his first few years so he needs like 8 more first-team NBA seasons and at least 2 more rings to even warrant a part in the discussion.

Wemby staying healthy long enough to enter the chat is an even longer shot than Jokic, even though his ceiling and ability to impact a game are on par with the GOAT names.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80317 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:49 am to
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So Jokic does not get put into the category with Bird, Magic, MJ, Kobe, Lebron realm because he's only been doing it for about 4 years; yet no concern about putting Wemby in that realm in 2-3 years when at that point he would have been playing for 4 years


I’m not much of a stats guy. I’m more of an eye test guy and I feel comfortable in my prediction Wemby will change the way the game is played.

How do you account for this clip below with stats?

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Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:54 am to
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Wemby will change the way the game is played.


With a big ol "if he can stay healthy" qualifier, naturally.

I'm not convinced that someone with his size/build/playstyle can have a long, illustrious career. If he can stay on the court, look out.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80317 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:01 am to
That’s always the concern with guys his size. But he seems to be proportionally skinny. Some dudes look sickly. He is skinny, but you can see there is some muscle there. I’m pulling for a KD-like maturation of his body. He runs pretty fluid too.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6547 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:01 am to
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I remember that Kevin Durant was easily the best player on the Warriors team. I also remember that Durant was the Finals MVP on those championship teams. Seems others saw what I did. More selective memory I see.


No one is saying they weren’t better with him. What posted actually proves my point. He was capable of taking over a series and they were the best team without him so why risk it.

mOre SeLeCtIvE mEmoRy
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3034 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:34 pm to
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One of the takeaways could be that KD and Harden are cancers, Warriors would’ve won those without KD btw



No chance. They were never beating LeBron and Kyrie again without KD.
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