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The Florida Fun n Gun offense of the 90s

Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:24 pm
As a curiosity I pulled up some old highlights of the 96 UF team and it would be considered an antiquted Les Miles type of offense by today's standards (not quite to that extent)

Seems like the majority of the plays they're running an offset I formation in the backfield

How times have changed
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:30 pm to
1995 was 25 years ago. Would be like comparing 1988 football to football in the 60’s.
Posted by WaltTeevens
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:36 pm to
I remember thinking as a kid "Oh Fun N Gun is unstoppable.."

Every QB and receiver seemed like am NFL star in the making
Posted by Cregg
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:40 pm to
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How times have changed

No shite
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:00 pm to
Spurrier didn’t like the shotgun

But the route concepts, and his philosophy of throwing the ball first, getting the defense on their heels, and then running the ball was revolutionary for a power conference team. Only the Houston’s and BYU’s of the world did that prior to Spurrier.
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:05 pm to
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Spurrier didn’t like the shotgun


That changed after the ‘96 game at doak.

Watch the rematch in the sugar bowl against FSU, the fun n gun looks a lot more modern.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:07 pm to
You mean Norm Van Brooklyn’s and Don Corryel did it first

San Diego St of early70’s with At Corryel was the blueprint for the Fun n Gun The Jets of late 60’s also used the vertical concepts of the Florida Offense

The West Coast Offense is also forerunner to the Fun n Gun. The formations and routes were based off Norm
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:15 pm to
I seem to remember Spurrs had his QBs throw to spots and not look at WRs.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:18 pm to
Fun n gun offense: where the third WR for Florida could light you up for 8 catches and 175 yards with 3 TD’s. The next week would be someone else and on and on...
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:19 pm to
Dan Patrick interviewed Mike Leach the other day. He asked him what the next offensive innovation would be. Leach said in effect, what goes around comes around. "Nobody ever stopped the wishbone when it was executed well."
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:18 am to
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You mean Norm Van Brooklyn’s and Don Corryel did it first


0/2
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:34 am to
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Dan Patrick interviewed Mike Leach the other day. He asked him what the next offensive innovation would be. Leach said in effect, what goes around comes around. "Nobody ever stopped the wishbone when it was executed well."


The problem is recruiting athletes to play in a system like that

If you could stock and old school system like that with elite talent you could probably destroy everyone because they aren't prepared for that type of offense
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:49 am to
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I seem to remember Spurrs had his QBs throw to spots and not look at WRs


Yep. They threw at grass a lot and it was the receivers job to find the grass. That's what made it so tough to stop.
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:50 am to
Definitely fun to watch
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:52 am to
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The problem is recruiting athletes to play in a system like that

If you could stock and old school system like that with elite talent you could probably destroy everyone because they aren't prepared for that type of offense




This. Look at what Paul Johnson did his firat few years with Chan Gailey's mediocre recruits.

But kids (even the kind of kids who might go to Georgia Tech) don't want to play in a system they don't think will get them to the NFL.

The fact that service academies aren't beaten like stepchildren EVERY week is proof of what Leach is saying. Good scheme is always good
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 5:53 am
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 8:02 am to
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I seem to remember Spurrs had his QBs throw to spots and not look at WRs.


You’re not necessarily wrong, but it was mostly with wuerffel he did this with. Wuerffel is the only qb I’ve ever seen that threw quick fades from any position on the field (rather than exclusively goal line). Also, wuerffel would throw a bunch of deep posts he just lofted up and allowed the wr to run under it. He had great touch and accuracy, so those patterns were perfect for him.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 8:44 am to
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1995 was 25 years ago. Would be like comparing 1988 football to football in the 60’s.


'88 was the last time Notre Dame won a championship, a lot like the 60s.

Teams (Oklahoma) were winning titles running the wishbone in the 80s, Nebraska was winning titles in the 90s running the option.

Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:51 am to
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The West Coast Offense is also forerunner to the Fun n Gun. The formations and routes were based off Norm


There are basically 3 types of pass dominant offenses and many have been blended

Run n Shoot:Mouse Davis of Portland State is pretty much given credit as Father of this offense.together.(Houston Cougars with Ware and Klingler put up gaudy numbers in the late 80's early 90's)

Air Raid:Lavelle Edwards (BYU) was the father and MULTIPLE HC's in the NFL and CFB come from his coaching tree or are disciples.Mike Leach (attended BYU but didn't play or coach) and Hal Mumme took his playbook and put it on steroids.

West Coast Offense:Sid Gilliam (AFL Chargers) is given most of the credit for the "Air Coryell"version of this although the 49ers version with Bill Walsh can be traced to Paul Brown

Not sure which category the Fun &Gun falls under or if it used different aspects from each
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 9:59 am
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:03 am to
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Nobody ever stopped the wishbone when it was executed well."


Nobody ever stopped any offense that executed well.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:56 am to
I don't really think it falls under any of them to be honest. It was unique in that the pattern changed based on the coverage, but not necessarily reading on the run like the run and shoot.

One example, if the defense was in a single high look, the combination would be a curl-flat, but if they went to 2 high, it would change to hutch-corner.

Not sure how many systems have that built into them.
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