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re: The Astros were using cameras and technology to steal signs in 2017

Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:19 am to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145081 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:19 am to
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But nah, lets keep dragging the Astros through the mud because we are butthurt they are good.
yes, that's exactly what people are doing
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:21 am to
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Altuve career at home: .310/.364/.464
On the road: .319/.363/.462

In 2017 at home: .311/.371/.463
2017 on the road: .381/.449/.633

Did you even bother to actually look up the numbers?

Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:22 am to
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And they’re good

Through cheating
Posted by Damone
FoCo
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:22 am to
I love the defense of "well we're not the only ones cheating!"
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:27 am to
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I love the defense of "well we're not the only ones cheating!"



I love the stance of “They’re guilty because 1 pissed off ex-player and 3 anonymous sources said so, even though the evidence statistics contradict the statements.”.

There are lots of biased opinions here on both sides. Let’s wait and see what MLB finds out. Simply put, IF they are guilty, EVERYONE from Hinch on down knew about it. The truth will come out.
Posted by Topo Chico
Houston
Member since Apr 2019
445 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:28 am to
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I love the defense of "well we're not the only ones cheating!"


Dude this is a site whose foundation is college football. I thought we pretty much all came here with this sentiment.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:39 am to
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It's like people forget that the Red Sox and Yankees were both being accused of using tech to steal signs back in 2017 and even got fined.
But nah, lets keep dragging the Astros through the mud because we are butthurt they are good
my god, you Astros fans are pathetic.

Also, from that article:
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Moreover, all 30 Clubs have been notified that future violations of this type will be subject to more serious sanctions, including the possible loss of draft picks
yall fricked
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:42 am to
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even though the evidence statistics contradict the statements.”.
you aren’t absolved from cheating just because you sucked at it.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 9:43 am
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:44 am to
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Point is this: if a little college in SELA can have a system in place to account for sign stealing (because it’s happened for as long as baseball has been played) and the godddamned New York Yankees don’t, then shame on them.


Bro. Yall were using fricking cameras. Just say "yeah we were being scumbags. We dont care." Just fricking say it. Otherwise, you lose all credibility and just solidify what everyone already thinks about your fanbase.


nb4 "We dont care what you think about us" and no acknowledgment of being cheaters.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:45 am to
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I love the stance of “They’re guilty because 1 pissed off ex-player and 3 anonymous sources said so, even though the evidence statistics contradict the statements.”.


THERES frickING VIDEO EVIDENCE.
Posted by Topo Chico
Houston
Member since Apr 2019
445 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:47 am to
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nb4 "We dont care what you think about us" and no acknowledgment of being cheaters.


We cheated. Just like everyone else. Feel better? Because I feel fricking great.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71979 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:48 am to
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my god, you Astros fans are pathetic.



Cmon dude, the catcher needs to go to the mound for every hitter and change the signs. Better record on the road bro!
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:49 am to
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We cheated. Just like everyone else. Feel better? Because I feel fricking great


I knew you couldnt do it.

Congrats on the WS championship this season
Posted by Taurus
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:54 am to
I'm an old school Big Red Machine fan and a Braves fan(because of my grandfather), but good grief, stealing signs is part of baseball, nonstop.

I've been wondering for years how many teams are watching tv in the clubhouse to try to steal signs, but also know players constantly watching pitchers to steal signs all the time.

This is NOT just an Astros thing, but a baseball wide thing, just like steroids. It's not one, or a few, but many.

All you butthurt Astros haters need to get over your righteousness, and know YOUR team does the same sign stealing crap. It's a baseball problem just like steroids.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:58 am to
I fully expect the Astros to be “the example team” with this and get several draft picks taken. It is what it is and I think they’ve been pretty brazen about it so it’s hard to complain
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:59 am to
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but good grief, stealing signs is part of baseball, nonstop.


Using technology to cheat is not a part of baseball bud.

I’ve also seen players in high school and in college get beaned for trying to do it in-game. It’s a part of the sport unless you get caught.

If MLB finds Houston guilty of what they’ve been accused of then they should drop the hammer. If there isn’t conclusive evidence following the investigation then everyone should move on.
Posted by Drew Brews
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Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:59 am to
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I'm an old school Big Red Machine fan and a Braves fan(because of my grandfather), but good grief, stealing signs is part of baseball, nonstop.

I've been wondering for years how many teams are watching tv in the clubhouse to try to steal signs, but also know players constantly watching pitchers to steal signs all the time.

This is NOT just an Astros thing, but a baseball wide thing, just like steroids. It's not one, or a few, but many.

All you butthurt Astros haters need to get over your righteousness, and know YOUR team does the same sign stealing crap. It's a baseball problem just like steroids.


All of this.

It's easier to pretend like some other team is evil, and your team is pure tho. Plus the media would rather cover a scandal than sports. Is what it is.
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3378 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:00 am to
Nah.
Posted by Drew Brews
SG·LA
Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:05 am to
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I fully expect the Astros to be “the example team” with this and get several draft picks taken. It is what it is and I think they’ve been pretty brazen about it so it’s hard to complain


I agree with this. I'd add that it'll still all be worth it. Same with the Osuna signing. That banner will be up long after the self righteous mob has moved on to something else. I understand ppl not liking it, but it's the truth.

There's a reason teams continue to prioritize winning at all costs, it's worth it.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145081 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:08 am to
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love the stance of “They’re guilty because 1 pissed off ex-player and 3 anonymous sources said so, even though the evidence statistics contradict the statements.”.
uhhhh there is pretty damning video evidence
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