re: Texas fans ripping on the SEC after the Bowl Games.

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Adding a Heisman winner is kind of a big deal...

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if he won the Heisman in the Big 12, they'd say he couldn't compete against SEC defenses, "look at what Sam Bradford did"

Remember that this is a school whose coach swore up and down that his team was "basically an SEC team", then proceeded to get DVDA'd all over the place on defense.

That's vastly different than what we were talking about.

I've seen plenty of the "A&M wasn't all that good in the B12. Look at the success in the SEC. Conference must not be that great" garbage. Downplaying/ignoring the addition of a Heisman winner, which you seemed to imply with "SEC fans swore up and down that a team like A&M couldn't compete, that their offense could never work in the SEC. and in true SEC fan fashion, rather than give someone else credit, they back peddle and say it was because JFF was a special player and wait till we have time to prepare, blah, blah" is pretty dumb.

Put a Heisman winning QB on Vandy this year and they'd likely be an upper echelon team in any conference

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"A&M wasn't all that good in the B12. Look at the success in the SEC. Conference must not be that great" garbage

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That's a stupid argument, but no different than saying teams outside the SEC couldn't compete.

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Downplaying/ignoring the addition of a Heisman winner, which you seemed to imply with "SEC fans swore up and down that a team like A&M couldn't compete, that their offense could never work in the SEC. and in true SEC fan fashion, rather than give someone else credit, they back peddle and say it was because JFF was a special player and wait till we have time to prepare, blah, blah" is pretty dumb

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I'm not downplaying it, but you if you think the ONLY reason A&M was good in the SEC was because they had a Heisman winner, that is also pretty dumb. A&M also has 2 probably top 5-10 NFL draft picks in Joeckel and Moore, so its not as if they were devoid of talent. You can have a good QB, without him winning the Heisman, hell the fact they were in the SEC probably helped, at 10-2 in the Big 12 with the same stats, he probably doesn't win it.

Too bad your quality QB got hurt. I'm sure UsC would be in the NC game. Pre season #1 means everything.

The SEC is great these days for a few reasons.

For one, they are finally fully integrated and can exploit their region's demographics. The rest involves academic fraud and lack of recruiting limits.

Not many SEC or Texas schools could compete with OU and Nebraska until they made strides to change their Jim Crow image, because the Midwest generally had the biggest and strongest Caucasian kids compared to all other regions.

Barry Switzer and Tom Osbourne used to be brilliant at recruiting RBs and speed positions in that region by exploiting the history of the region.

Okay, maybe that was trolling a little, but the SEC this year has really been exposed for their lack of fielding offenses. ATM has exposed it, and OU will bury TexAg tomorrow. Stoops is 11-2 against Aggots.

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A&M has the #3 scoring offense and the #29 scoring defense. GAME OVER.

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Aggots of aTm (arse to mouth) know their place against OU and their flagship brethren in Austin. New label, same old results for the skinheads from twangy east Texas.

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It'll probably be a shootout honestly, depending on which Landry Jones shows up

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Landry won't be the key factor in the game. Blake Bell will probably do the most damage to aTm.

In all honesty, I think it will be a shootout and OU will definitely have to take Bozworth's advice and utilize a spy on defense to watch JFF at all times.

A and M offense is just tough to beat

You've got probably the best OT duo in the country and Michael Vick at QB essentially

Only the truly elite defenses will be able to shut that attack down

Anything ranging from just sort of good to mediocre is going to get steamrolled all day

Makes a lot of sense to me!