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re: Texans extend Kubiak through 2012 season
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I'd much rather Earl Thomas than Dwyer regardless.
fair enough. quote:
like 3rd rounder Steve Slaton?
He isn't an every down back. Aside from that this year like I have been saying is light on talent in the 3rd round down.
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Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:11 pm to adammwilson
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a big brusing back with decent speed.
who hasn't proven he can line up in the i and run at a high level. and his speed isn't anything special
plus he ran against shite competition
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He has everything you want at RB.
except experience in a real system and success in a real system. OTHER THAN THOSE little things
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:11 pm to adammwilson
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RB is easier than some positions but I wouldn't say it's the easiest.
no it is the easiest
why else do so many RBs make major impacts as rookies?
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:12 pm to adammwilson
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I wouldn't say it's the easiest.
what's easier punter? kicker maybe? No position do as many rookies have an impact historically than RB.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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quality big backs:
blount
c. scott
dixon
s. johnson
ben tate
quality scat backs:
royster
murray
fletcher
the word quality is thrown around loosely isn't it?
I'll give you Blount. However, he would have been a 1st rounder aside from the Boise State Incident.
Scott has major problems making cuts he is more of just a bruiser. He will be lucky to go before round 6.
Dixon is a solid 2nd round back. I really like him. However, he isn't very elusive and he lacks a 2nd gear.
Johnson is talented no doubt. However, he is still recovering from throat surgery. He wasn't that good at the senior bowl. he will be lucky to be drafted. He lacks great speed.
Tate i like. he is a guy I think could be a good 3rd rounder. I like him better than most who have him going in the 4th. From what i've heard he has had a fumbling problem though.
Royster? he isn't even in the top 35 at the position.
Murray opted to stay in school.
Fletcher isn't in the top 35 at the position either.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he ran against shite competition
yeah. Miami,UGA, UNC, Miss. state, FSU, Virginia Tech, and Iowa are shite competition let me tell you. That was just from this year.
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except experience in a real system and success in a real system
ever heard of high school. he was ridiculously productive in h.s.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:24 pm to adammwilson
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He isn't an every down back.
another meaningless term. He had basically 20 touches a game in 08. They do not need 1 guy to the 30 touches and never leave the field.. Moats and Foster had 100 yd games.
Also I really meant to use Slaton as an example of a mid round pick that contributed not necessarily as the answer in 2010. Though if it was an injury that caused the fumbling, and that's fixed, that would be great.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
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another meaningless term. He had basically 20 touches a game in 08. They do not need 1 guy to the 30 touches and never leave the field.. Moats and Foster had 100 yd games.
how is it meaningless? He is a nice 3rd down back. He can't consistently gain 4 yards on 1st down.
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Moats and Foster had 100 yd games.
Foster is nice. Moats has never been a useful NFL player.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:36 pm to adammwilson
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However, he would have been a 1st rounder aside from the Boise State Incident.
no he wouldn't have. he's likely a 4.6 guy who isn't explosive
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However, he isn't very elusive
he's 240 or so. he's not supposed to be elusive
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Royster? he isn't even in the top 35 at the position.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:37 pm to adammwilson
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He is a nice 3rd down back.
he has a 1200 yard season on his resume...
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Anyone know how many starting RB in the NFL are first round picks?
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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isn't explosive
most would disagree.
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he's 240 or so. he's not supposed to be elusive
if he isn't elusive he isn't worth a very high pick.
Royster isn't in the top 35 go look it up for yorself.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he has a 1200 yard season on his resume...
that was 1 year he has regressed since.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:43 pm to adammwilson
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most would disagree.
have you watched him play? he's not explosive and doesn't have a great burst
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if he isn't elusive he isn't worth a very high pick.
we're talking about mid-round guys anyway
i'd like to see the list of elusive 240 lb RBs in the NFL the past 10 years
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Royster isn't in the top 35 go look it up for yorself.
i will go right now and find every team's draft board and verify this information
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:43 pm to adammwilson
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that was 1 year
3rd down backs aren't capable of 1200 yard seasons
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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have you watched him play? he's not explosive and doesn't have a great burst
I have and it looked decent to me.
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i'd like to see the list of elusive 240 lb RBs in the NFL the past 10 years
I'm saying he won't be able to just run through guys in the pro's. because he is so big who knows how his playing style will work in the NFL.
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i will go right now and find every team's draft board and verify this information
Or maybe you could just look at some draft websites
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:46 pm to adammwilson
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He is a nice 3rd down back
3rd down backs don't gain 1200 + yards on 268 carries or get 20 touches a game.
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Moats has never been a useful NFL player.
he had a 100 yd game, him or someone like him can get 3-5 touches a game. You do not need a "every down back" to have a good running game, see the Super Bowl Champions.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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3rd down backs aren't capable of 1200 yard seasons
CONSISTENCY
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:48 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You do not need a "every down back" to have a good running game, see the Super Bowl Champions.
true. However, you do need a guy that can gain positive yards every time they touch the ball and have some power. That's not Moats or Slaton. Foster hasn't shown the ability to always do it. Not to mention Moats is a FA who won't be back.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:49 pm to adammwilson
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I have and it looked decent to me.
your evaluation skills of RBs have been shown to be quite off in this thread
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I'm saying he won't be able to just run through guys in the pro's.
nobody does this
why do you expect cixon to?
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because he is so big who knows how his playing style will work in the NFL.
he plays like any other big power back
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Or maybe you could just look at some draft websites
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