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Swap Lebron and Larry Legend
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:42 am
Say you took prime, healthy Larry Bird and prime, heathy Lebron and transported them onto each other's teams, with the rules of each era applying. What happens? Who's more successful
I'm pretty sure it's Bird, primarily because of the rules and style of the game back then. Lebron isn't known for having the most fortitude or toughness in the world, and I don't think he would handle very well the kind of defense that was routine in Bird's era, where stuff that would now be a flagrant foul with an ejection was not even a foul back then. I think he would be routinely crying.
Meanwhile I think Larry Bird would be in heaven, at least on the offensive side of the ball (he might foul out on defense). Bird was unstoppable on offense against many of the greatest defenders in NBA history, in the eastern conference at that time which was probably the toughest conference at any point in NBA history. In today's league, with the soft players and the rules set nobody in today's game is going to stop Larry Legend. Bird would be shooting 60% from the field.
I'm pretty sure it's Bird, primarily because of the rules and style of the game back then. Lebron isn't known for having the most fortitude or toughness in the world, and I don't think he would handle very well the kind of defense that was routine in Bird's era, where stuff that would now be a flagrant foul with an ejection was not even a foul back then. I think he would be routinely crying.
Meanwhile I think Larry Bird would be in heaven, at least on the offensive side of the ball (he might foul out on defense). Bird was unstoppable on offense against many of the greatest defenders in NBA history, in the eastern conference at that time which was probably the toughest conference at any point in NBA history. In today's league, with the soft players and the rules set nobody in today's game is going to stop Larry Legend. Bird would be shooting 60% from the field.
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:48 am to narddogg81
Lebron's athleticism would be a shock to NBA teams in the 80s. He'd dominate.
Agreed Larry Bird would thrive offensively in today's NBA but not that much more than he did in the 80s.
Agreed Larry Bird would thrive offensively in today's NBA but not that much more than he did in the 80s.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:51 am to narddogg81
Lebron stats would be absolutely ridiculous if you took his prime version and stuck him in the 80s.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:52 am to elposter
quote:That's how it was in his own era.
Lebron's athleticism would be a shock to NBA teams in the 80s. He'd dominate.
He was a man among boys, running circles around everyone in his own era. And he still bitched out half the time. That's what he'd do in the 80s
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:55 am to elposter
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Lebron's athleticism would be a shock to NBA teams in the 80s. He'd dominate.
If LeBron doesn’t have access to the EPO and HGH in the 80s, he won’t be so “athletic”.
Anyone believing he is natural is just a moron. Especially when his trainer is linked to that stuff.
The league is largely different now because of advancements in training, therapy and available “supplements”.
You have to account for that in these types of comparison.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:57 am to Gaggle
quote:So 4 nba titles, 4 finals mvps, and four league MVPs to go along with countless historical records?
And he still bitched out half the time. That's what he'd do in the 80s
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:58 am to Geauxgurt
quote:Its all relative though….
If LeBron doesn’t have access to the EPO and HGH in the 80s, he won’t be so “athletic”. Anyone believing he is natural is just a moron. Especially when his trainer is linked to that stuff. The league is largely different now because of advancements in training, therapy and available “supplements”. You have to account for that in these types of comparison.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:01 pm to lsupride87
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Its all relative though….
True, but you aren’t dropping this version of LeBron into the 80s if you hold him to the standards and training available then and not the stuff he has talent advantage of here.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:01 pm to Geauxgurt
But relatively speaking, he will still be that much more athletic than everyone else in the 80s who also don’t have modern training
Lebron on any era is going to have a massive athletic advantage because of his genetics
Lebron on any era is going to have a massive athletic advantage because of his genetics
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:12 pm to narddogg81
Look Everyone! LeBron living rent free in someone else’s head 
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:15 pm to narddogg81
quote:Which Lebron we talking about?
Say you took prime, healthy Larry Bird and prime, heathy Lebron
He’s had 2 healthy careers if we’re comparing him to healthy Bird.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:18 pm to narddogg81
Quick, hg, get in here.
You can’t miss this opportunity to join your people in saying the dumbest shite ever.
You can’t miss this opportunity to join your people in saying the dumbest shite ever.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:20 pm to narddogg81
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Say you took prime, healthy Larry Bird and prime, heathy Lebron and transported them onto each other's teams, with the rules of each era applying. What happens? Who's more successful
I see you are getting your white man in the NBA fix on again. Yeah, we get it, Larry Bird is the biggest white man name you can think of in NBA history.
Dude, Bird is not that guy.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:23 pm to bamameister
quote:
Say you took prime, healthy Larry Bird and prime, heathy Lebron and transported them onto each other's teams, with the rules of each era applying. What happens? Who's more successful
I see you are getting your white man in the NBA fix on again. Yeah, we get it, Larry Bird is the biggest white man name you can think of in NBA history.
Dude, Bird is not that guy.
1. Lebron would have been just as dominant in the 80's.
2. Larry was that guy.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:53 pm to elposter
quote:nope, it's a myth that Lebron is some kind of heretofore unknown athletic freak in the sport of basketball. They had dudes just as big and fast and strong as lebron as far back as the 60s. Friggin Dominique Wilkins, almost identical measurables to Lebron, probably more athletic than lebron and played exactly during Birds era. He was 6'8" 240 and they called him the human highlight film because he was so athletic and acrobatic. Hell Chamberlain was bigger, stronger, and just as fast.
Lebron's athleticism would be a shock to NBA teams in the 80s. He'd dominate.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:08 pm to narddogg81
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They had dudes just as big and fast and strong as lebron as far back as the 60s. Friggin Dominique Wilkins, almost identical measurables to Lebron, probably more athletic than lebron and played exactly during Birds era. He was 6'8" 240 and they called him the human highlight film because he was so athletic and acrobatic. Hell Chamberlain was bigger, stronger, and just as fast.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:08 pm to 21JumpStreet
quote:he would give up after one game of someone actually defending him and not getting a foul called on them
21JumpStreet
Bron would avg 100 ppg
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:11 pm to David Ricky
quote:go watch some old games
David Ricky
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:15 pm to narddogg81
Wilkins has a somewhat similar profile to young Lebron but wasn't skilled enough to come close to the level of Lebron's play.
Peak Lebron was much bigger/stronger than Wilkins with an even more advanced skillset and mental game.
Peak Lebron was much bigger/stronger than Wilkins with an even more advanced skillset and mental game.
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