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re: Steve Sarkisian asked to take leave of absence, Clay Helton interim USC coach

Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Something happened between then and special teams meeting


he started drinking?
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33096 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:22 pm to
Pills or weed maybe.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:34 pm to
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he started drinking?


Yeah, big mystery.
Posted by timbo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:35 pm to
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Others may disagree, but I'd like to see Kingsbury at USC. I think that would be a great fit.


That would be an utter disaster. It would be great for Kingsbury...that's probably his dream job. And that Ryan Gosling-looking mother would do great with the top shelf USC babes.
But what has he won at Texas Tech? If he was some average looking dude with his record at Texas Tech, he wouldn't have a shot at USC. It would be Lane Kiffin II.
I think THIS is the job that Chip Kelly gets. God knows he would be a huge change from Sarkisian.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38547 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Others may disagree, but I'd like to see Kingsbury at USC. I think that would be a great fit.



I'd rather Sark coach from in-patient rehab
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34600 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:43 pm to
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I think THIS is the job that Chip Kelly gets.


Except that he really doesn't have any interest in going back to the college game anytime soon. Who knows, they may stick by Sark an ride it out for the rest of the year while he is in rehab, and give him one last shot next year. He could be fantastic if he can sober up. Sadly, I don't think that environment is conducive to staying sober once he got out of rehab.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:47 pm to
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Something happened between then and special teams meeting


Blow and patron
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:55 pm to
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He could be fantastic if he can sober up.


What is this based on? Recruiting?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:57 pm to
Probably already posted, but a review of his receipts shows a history...no surprise

LINK

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More than 800 pages of receipts, hotel folios and expense reports obtained by The Times from Sarkisian's tenure at Washington show alcohol was a constant presence.

In 2011, for example, Sarkisian picked up a bill at Suncadia Resort in Cle Elum, Wash., that included 83 beers and 12 shots of Grey Goose vodka. Twenty Washington coaches and their spouses are listed as attending.

During a one-night stay at the JW Marriott at L.A. Live in May 2011 for a speaking engagement, Sarkisian's hotel folio shows room service delivered a $90 bottle of Veuve Clicquot champagne and a chocolate amenity, then six beers.

At the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix for a Pac-12 Conference head coach meetings, Sarkisian ran up $106 in minibar charges in one day in May 2012 and spent more than $1,600 over two days at the Renaissance Indian Wells Resort and Spa's pool bar in 2013.

Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:01 pm to
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What is this based on? Recruiting?


USC has proven in the past that they can get any player they want from any part of the country because they're USC.

And they finish top 5 by default, minimum, when their coach isn't a drunk or a douchebag.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:06 pm to
i think their best best is an NFL coach. recruiting will never be a problem for USC. that's how they hit with carroll.


I could see Sean Payton being the coach there
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:06 pm to
And there is a bigger issue at stake with this incident happening this week:

Notre Dame is four unbeaten Power 5 Conference teams away from being gifted a playoff spot. Unless Stanford beats them. Or maybe Pittsburgh. Or somehow USC is focused enough to beat them Saturday.

Come on, Ohio State, LSU, TCU/Baylor and FSU/Clemson!
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34909 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:09 pm to
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USC has proven in the past that they can get any player they want from any part of the country because they're USC.



Exactly what I would have said if that was the reason that he could be called fantastic.

quote:

And they finish top 5 by default, minimum, when their coach isn't a drunk or a douchebag.



Maybe, but that doesn't make the coach "fantastic" by default. Just the opposite actually.

I don't get the appeal of Sark. He was a so-so coach at Washington. Hell Washington upgraded after he left.

Just another round of "Michigan Man" bullshite but at another school.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:17 pm to
people forget just how truly awful washington was when he got there. i'm pretty sure they went winless the year before he got there. Ty Wittinham ran that program under the ground, in the sewer. he turned it around up there. he did a good job.


i like SS and think if he an get his drinking in order he is a really good coach
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33041 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:26 pm to
dude is a 7-5/8-4 coach at best.

he doesn't belong at a high profile job like usc. probably a solid mid major coach or lower tier power 5 school.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:36 pm to
Sark officially fired moments ago.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34600 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Ty Wittinham ran that program under the ground, in the sewer


Willingham...
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23954 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:52 pm to
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More than 800 pages of receipts, hotel folios and expense reports obtained by The Times from Sarkisian's tenure at Washington show alcohol was a constant presence.

In 2011, for example, Sarkisian picked up a bill at Suncadia Resort in Cle Elum, Wash., that included 83 beers and 12 shots of Grey Goose vodka. Twenty Washington coaches and their spouses are listed as attending.

During a one-night stay at the JW Marriott at L.A. Live in May 2011 for a speaking engagement, Sarkisian's hotel folio shows room service delivered a $90 bottle of Veuve Clicquot champagne and a chocolate amenity, then six beers.

At the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix for a Pac-12 Conference head coach meetings, Sarkisian ran up $106 in minibar charges in one day in May 2012 and spent more than $1,600 over two days at the Renaissance Indian Wells Resort and Spa's pool bar in 2013.


None of these seem super excessive. A little heavy maybe, but not over the top.

95 Drinks between 40 people (20 coaches + spouses) is roughly 2.5 drinks per person over dinner. How is that crazy?

$90 dollar bottle of champagne and some chocolate? He was getting laid. 6 beers afterwards? He sent the hooker home and watched Netflix.

$106 minibar charge? Peanuts are $8 in those things. Not hard to run up $106 tab and still be stone cold sober.

Now, $1,600 dollars at a pool bar...well, that's balling, but I doubt he drank all that himself.

The man's going through some tough shite right now and isn't handling it well, but let's not blow his previous, fairly reasonable, bar tabs out of proportion.

shite, the girlfriend and I will run up a $100 tab at brunch without blinking. Couple of bloody marys, a bottle or two of prosecco and juice, food, etc. That's a $100 check without tip.

When I lived in Miami, that was $200, and I don't even want to know what people would think if they looked at some of my bar tabs from back then. They were insane.
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