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re: Steelers owner Art Rooney II says changes will be made to Rooney Rule

Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48972 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:25 am to
To hell with qualifications just force teams to hire minorities. That is where this is headed. I wonder why they are so worried minority coaches but why not more whites on the field? Where are the white corner backs?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24153 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:28 am to
Weren’t there at least 3 black coaches in the nfl this year?

That’s about 10 percent or proper representation based on population break down.

I never understood what problem they are trying to solve.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:42 am to
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I never understood what problem they are trying to solve.


Yeah. You do. You just can't say it without being labeled.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103165 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:56 am to
Interviewing isn’t necessarily the issue.

Getting pissy over a lack of minority hires in an offseason is a problem, especially if there weren’t good candidates to choose from.


The pool of candidates to choose from in general is fairly small these days, as they tend to be retread head coaches, currently employed coordinators, or the occasional college coach (Bill O’Brien, Matt Rhule, etc).


If Rooney wants to make a bigger push toward diversity in head coaching, he needs to push teams to hire minority position coaches and identify ones who have the potential to move up to coordinator jobs.

Someone who makes their bones as a coordinator tends to become a hot candidate for head coaching jobs.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64182 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:58 am to
Dumb. How many black coaches PERIOD? Why is it always about the top position with these people?

Same thing with women. They're only upset about the gender distribution of CEO and high paying professions, but not other places.


I seriously doubt any franchise is going to refuse a black HC hire because hes black.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 11:59 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64182 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

To hell with qualifications just force teams to hire minorities. That is where this is headed. I wonder why they are so worried minority coaches but why not more whites on the field? Where are the white corner backs?



Diversity = less white people
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34910 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

The 2019 NFL racial and gender report card


Wtf is this gay shite???




Also, if they are going to continue to push this Rooney rule bullshite, I want to see teams offer more tryouts to white cornerbacks and running backs because there aren’t enough of them in the league and I feel that is a huge injustice to the white people community in this country.

Rosa Parks didn’t give up her seat on the bus for this shite!!!! I won’t stand for it! #makewhiteCBsgreatagain
Posted by Dude88
Member since Sep 2019
744 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
And that would probably increase the number of minority coaches, since the retreads tend to be white.
Posted by Dude88
Member since Sep 2019
744 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:19 pm to
The black population of America is like 12% or 13%. That would predict 4 black coaches. There were three black coaches at the end of 2019 per the Washington Post. LINK


However, it varies a bit from year to year. I remember a stat a few years ago that 6 out of 32 coaches were black.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:25 pm to
you cant and you shouldnt force teams to hire coaches they dont want

skin color means nothing, its about wins and loses and how you deal with people.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8212 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:30 pm to
Bunch of liberal bullshite, hire the best guy black or white
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1694 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Art Rooney II, the Steelers' president and chairman of the NFL's diversity workplace committee.

Guess there’s not a Rooney rule in place for the chairmanship of the NFL’s diversity workplace committee. Racists.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I wonder why they are so worried minority coaches but why not more whites on the field? Where are the white corner backs?


I hate this counter argument, it is either disingenuous or racist.

Black people are better athletes on average due to genetics. Are white people better coaches due to genetics?

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34910 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:41 pm to
Why do you hate that counter argument?

How is it disingenuous and/or racist?
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24153 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:50 pm to
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Yeah. You do. You just can't say it without being labeled


Well you always hear the league is high percentage black but coaches are not as high, but the idea that it requires the same skill set to run a fade route as running a football program is laughable.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24153 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Black people are better athletes on average due to genetics. Are white people better coaches due to genetics?


Wait are you saying the first statement is not racist but the second is?
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11323 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:10 pm to
OK,Art Rooney II, be careful what you mandate.

You sound as if you are a smidge away from mandating hires based on race.

If you do, what you are making is a
'never fire the white guys in your employ"
" better the coach you know than the unknown coach you've never worked with",
"take recommendation with extreme caution"- is the coach any good or is somebody just trying to get rid of him?
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39422 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:15 pm to
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Black people are better athletes on average due to genetics.


Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21200 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:40 pm to
Why should an organization be required to interview someone based off race or gender.

You should be able to interview and hire whoever you want.

If I owned a team or business I’d want the best candidate for the job whether they were a woman or man, Asian, Hispanic, black,
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14442 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:14 pm to
If they want to make a difference then they should expand it to coordinator positions.. I don’t understand the hate for the rule as it’s simply providing opportunities to new potential hires and helps potentially curbing the nfl love of retread hires
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